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Thursday, December 1st, 2022 8:53 AM

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mb8611 firmware

My Motorola mb8611 kept rebooting frequently as mentioned in other posts I found in this forum.

I guess it may be related to firmware update, because a few times I logged into 192.168.100.1, I noticed a different firmware version.

The device seemed coming with firmware version 8611-19.2.18. And sometime after a rebooting, it became 8611-21.3.7. Then it would reboot again soon and rolling back to 8611-19.2.18.

How could I get stable connection without changing to a new devices?

Also post the signal status below.

 Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
   1 Locked QAM256 20 507.0 -1.6 40.8 0 0
   2 Locked QAM256 4 405.0 -1.5 41.2 0 0
   3 Locked QAM256 5 411.0 -1.3 41.5 0 0
   4 Locked QAM256 6 417.0 -1.3 41.5 0 0
   5 Locked QAM256 7 423.0 -1.2 41.5 0 0
   6 Locked QAM256 8 429.0 -1.3 41.7 0 0
   7 Locked QAM256 9 435.0 -1.3 41.7 0 0
   8 Locked QAM256 10 441.0 -1.4 41.8 0 0
   9 Locked QAM256 11 447.0 -1.1 41.9 0 0
   10 Locked QAM256 12 453.0 -1.0 41.9 0 0
   11 Locked QAM256 13 459.0 -1.3 41.7 0 0
   12 Locked QAM256 14 465.0 -1.5 41.8 0 0
   13 Locked QAM256 15 471.0 -1.4 41.6 0 0
   14 Locked QAM256 16 477.0 -1.2 42.0 0 0
   15 Locked QAM256 17 483.0 -1.2 41.9 0 0
   16 Locked QAM256 18 489.0 -1.2 41.8 0 0
   17 Locked QAM256 19 495.0 -1.6 41.5 0 0
   18 Locked QAM256 21 513.0 -1.4 41.3 0 0
   19 Locked QAM256 22 519.0 -1.3 41.8 0 0
   20 Locked QAM256 23 525.0 -1.4 41.6 0 0
   21 Locked QAM256 24 531.0 -1.5 41.6 0 0
   22 Locked QAM256 25 543.0 -1.6 41.4 0 0
   23 Locked QAM256 26 549.0 -1.5 41.6 0 0
   24 Locked QAM256 27 555.0 -1.2 41.7 0 0
   25 Locked QAM256 28 561.0 -1.1 41.7 0 0
   26 Locked QAM256 29 567.0 -1.1 41.7 0 0
   27 Locked QAM256 30 573.0 -1.3 41.8 0 0
   28 Locked QAM256 31 579.0 -1.3 41.8 0 0
   29 Locked QAM256 32 585.0 -1.2 41.7 0 0
   30 Locked QAM256 33 591.0 -1.0 41.8 0 0
   31 Locked QAM256 34 597.0 -1.0 41.9 0 0
   32 Locked OFDM PLC 48 688.0 -0.9 41.7 43877307 0


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
   1 Locked SC-QAM 1 2560 10.4 45.0
   2 Locked SC-QAM 2 5120 16.4 42.5
   3 Locked SC-QAM 3 5120 22.8 41.8
   4 Locked SC-QAM 4 5120 29.2 41.3
   5 Locked SC-QAM 5 5120 35.6 41.8
   6 Locked SC-QAM 11 2560 40.4 44.5

Event log showed the following critical messages:
SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;

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2 years ago

I am also having the same issue. my MB8611 keeps crashing constantly! At least 10x per day. It is SUPER ANNOYING!! Does anyone have any recommendations for ANOTHER device that works? I'm happy to replace it with something else, if there was something else to replace it with?

Otherwise, Comcast, PLEASE FIX THIS!!

Amir

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@NoGoodNamesLeft4Me  Thanks for that info, you’re the engineer if I am not mistaken? I wrote something up concerning all this, I would like you to look at it, something’s I have experienced that escape my logic, I don’t really want to post it here, I would value your input, I am far from a engineer, but I did stay in a Holiday Express In last week…

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@Jlavaseur​ I'm a software engineer, not a network engineer, but sure I could look at it. I've been running a Linux firewall (at home and hosted offsite), web server, and email server for over two decades, so I know a little. Having known several bonafide network engineers, I know enough to be really dangerous.

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2 years ago

I am having the same issue. My MB8611 reboots about 2 to 3 times a day - sometimes more.  Looking at the connections specs, there’s not really a reason it should be rebooting… but it does. Can someone from Xfinity help me fix this please? I can’t work with a connection this unstable!

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Hello @asheahen. Thank you for sharing your experience. I wanted to check in to see if you're still having issues. If so, I'd be more than happy to review your account, and troubleshoot to help find a solution. To get started, can you please send a direct message with your name and service address to "Xfinity Support"? You can do this by clicking on the "Direct Messaging" chat icon in the top right corner of the page, then click on the pen and pad icon and enter "Xfinity Support" in the "To" section of the chat. 

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Ok, I’ll send a direct message later today - thanks.

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We look forward to hearing from you! And please keep in mind, that no matter the time, we're here! Our team is available 24/7! 

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@NoGoodNamesLeft4Me  I been running Linux, FreeBSD since ‘97, I remember running all those from a dialup connection, I actually have my first computer I got in ‘96, it’s been running 24/7 since I got it, it won’t seem to die, I have FreeBSD on it now, I actually on occasion compile my own custom firmware for my asus router, I use the Merlin source code, anyway here is a thought, i had some similar hiccups like echoed on this forum, like freezing, losing connection etc, so I booted into Linux and they mysteriously disappeared, i believe there might be more then one gremlin going on here, so a lot of folks have new lines out in, multiple tech visits, the techs says looks good, this is even happening on other ISPs that use this modem. I am thinking that there is one thing they all probably have in common, a router and devices attached to it, I have researched this a lot, there are situations that are like a ‘perfect storm’ where things can’t be explained, this is even documented on the Microsoft website, granted it’s probably a isolated few, but it happens none the less, it’s common knowledge that some network cards, broadcom being one of them, that sometimes don’t play nice with certain routers, I am thinking if it’s possible that the new firmware doesn’t want to play nice with existing router firmware, who knows if folks keep it current, sometimes with new router firmware it has issues and you have to revert back to a earlier version, anyway someone might want to reboot there mb8611 with nothing attached to it, maybe just a simple Firestick for some activity to rule this out, if it still reboots, I am completely wrong, if it doesn’t reboot, you know where to look for a fix, I would try it but mine is working fine, just a thought..

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@Jlavaseur​ Well mine is a pfsense firewall with generally poor Realtek interface being shown to the modem.  Mine has the realtek driver patches and has proven stable for several years until this modem was on the other side of it with this cruddy firmware.  With the exact same hardware every other device has proven fine, and at no time does the firewall/router side note any interface errors.  I can see this 'mystery' being possible if there were errant ethernet frames being pushed out...but there aren't. 
Searching anything with 'network', 'error', and 'Microsoft' together will surely lead you down a fruitless path of endless side quests.

Personally my second MB8611 is confirmed rubbish.  24 hour disconnect log attached.

 

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@Jlavaseur​ 

I been running Linux, FreeBSD since ‘97, I remember running all those from a dialup connection

My past was quite similar. I used to have a firewall, router, and caching DNS server running on a Compaq Presario 4716 over a dial-up connection for the Internet and a single 10 Mbps hub for my internal LAN. I also had three desktops and a laptop connected to the hub. When I got DSL, I added a mail server and web server. That system had a Pentium 200-MHz processor and was maxed out at 128 MB of RAM. Amazing that it all worked.

it’s common knowledge that some network cards, broadcom being one of them, that sometimes don’t play nice with certain routers, I am thinking if it’s possible that the new firmware doesn’t want to play nice with existing router firmware, who knows if folks keep it current, sometimes with new router firmware it has issues and you have to revert back to a earlier version

I'm thinking along similar lines. Some thoughts I have had:

  • The older firmware tolerated certain network cards better than the new firmware.
  • The older firmware tolerated certain signal conditions on the coax line better than the new firmware.
  • Some MB8611s have bad NAND storage. It can store the factory firmware as it comes out of the box, but the new firmware gets corrupted when saved or read. After several tries, the modem reverts to the factory default.
  • The firmware image from Xfinity gets corrupted when downloaded to the modem. It stores and reads just fine, but it is bad.
    • This would assume that no checksum is computed on the firmware, which seems unlikely.

Xfinity probably gets the base firmware file from Motorola but has to make updates with things like the frequencies they use, some protocol setup, and configuration items. (Nothing major, but they could still get it wrong.)

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area@user_118537  I was just pointing out possible other causes to look at, my mb8611 performs flawlessly..

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@NoGoodNamesLeft4Me  amazing, my first computer was gateway pentium pro 200,  haha, its crazy but we just made things work, i remember the AOL chatroom's, they held like 21 or 23 people at a time, everyone was on dial up, so maybe your friend wanted in but it was full, you could send some code into the room and it would disconnect everyone's dial up modem that wasn't patched, usually at least 2 or 3 chatters making room for a friend haha, i like your thoughts what could possibly be going on here, plus when i first put my mb8611 back online, it said i needed to activate, but my router had a public ip address and i could access things from a shell, ping google etc, i went to do a proper activation from tech support, well he couldn't even see the modem, said it wasn't activated but i was online, i wrote in more detail on another post.. some odd things going on...

https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/mb8611-problems/63bb4b0a86efae732c858f2f

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2 years ago

I have no idea where my comment went, i posted a reply last night, checked this morning and it's gone.

What's an alternative to the S33 and MB8611 that isn't Comcast's own equipment? I've tried both, both have the same issues. So tired of this problem

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2 years ago

mb8611 v1 Software Version 8611-21.3.7

I too am having reboot issues multiple times a day. It just started about 2 weeks or so ago. No help from xfinity at all. I'm jumping to 

fiber as soon as they get it installed in the area (they are currently in the neighborhood now).

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2 years ago

I have the same issue and contacted Motorola and they're sending me a new one. The support rep stated that it is a known issue and they have since patched it. Their support number is [Edited: "Personal Information"] https://help.motorolanetwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/4410421496603-Contact-Us

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@user_db1346​ 

That's super interesting since the firmware/software versions are supplied from the ISP.

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@user_db1346​ 

Do you have a Motorola Support ticket number? I am currently in session with someone from Moto Support and want to reference this acknowledgment of the problem.

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@denn73 my support number is 314623.

Update: Motorola is telling me that while they will pay to send me the new modem I have to pay to send my modem to them. I'm currently trying to debate why I should pay for it and this is what he said:

"to be honest, We are not 100% sure if this problem started because of a PWR frequency issue or anything related to the coaxial connection. That's why We cannot cover the shipment."

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@user_db1346

Noted, thanks for the ticket number. That is some useful information which you've shared, at least now I know what to expect if/when I get to the RMA phase of my conversation with Moto Support.  Someone from either Comcast or Motorola needs to step up and publicly admit the problem and transparently begin taking responsibility for it. The MB8611 is clearly displayed on Comcast's device compatibility list, and we, as both Comcast customers and Motorola end-user hardware consumers, deserve to know what is being done to restore consistent internet service. If the resolution cannot be accomplished within a reasonable time frame, then fair compensation is due. Being required to pay return shipping for a modem that does not function reliably, as advertised, does not seem fair.

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I contacted Xfinity and demanded they lease me their gateway for free until this issue gets fixed. They're sending it to me with a $15 charge for self install kit which they swear will be credited back to my account. Also I'm still being charged for leasing the gateway but once I return it I will be credited the amount I've been charged. We'll see if they follow through.

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2 years ago

Similar issues & frustrations with frequent random Internet drops/disconnections.  MB8611 firmware "8611-19.2.20".  Event log loaded with...

Time Not Established   Critical (3)   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;...

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2 years ago

I spoke to a Motorola rep based on the recommendation above and the suggestion was to get the 8600 model since my line doesn't support the faster speeds yet anyway. I ordered that, will return the 8611.

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@m_designs​ Same here. Still had my 8600 in the garage and hooked it back up. Will try to return 8611 to Best Buy. 

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I have an 8611.  It has the same problem.  Drops 5/10 times per day

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2 years ago

My 8611 recently joined the reboot party - I count at least 8 today (yay).  What fix seems to work the best?  This thread has mixed guidance:

  1. Contact someone at xfinity who can rollback the firmware?
  2. Contact motorola for a replacement device?
  3. Roll a tech to review local signal quality?
  4. Buy something that isn't the 8611 but supports 1.2Gbps?

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@bamnet​ I'm anot on the reboot party. I cannot work from home with such an issue. Also interested to see what I can do as Motorola has been very little help.

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@bamnet Thank you for reaching out on the Xfinity Community Forums. There has been some great advice provided by the community in this thread. You are more than welcome to take a look at Using Approved Third-Party Equipment for Xfinity Internet and Xfinity Voice to see if there is a modem that would work for you by signing in. Other members have recommended reaching out to Motorola as well as it is a known issue. 

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2 years ago

my mb8611 is at version

8611-19.2.18

My modem restarts 5-10 times / day.  Please xfinity, can you find and push a stable firmware version.  Also, please equally train your support staff.  I called in and the first person told me (a) there is no problem on xfinity side, and (b) xfinity cannot push a firmware to your own modem.  I called again, and 2nd support person said (a) there is a intermittent internet connection problem on xfinity side, and (b) xfinity can and will push a new firmware.  Please help!  Support ticket CR072715080.

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2 years ago

Apparently Xfinity is confused about the number of up-channels for this modem.  I count 6 on my MB8611.  Maybe this is the issue?  ;-)
Or perhaps it just goes to the competency question...

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@schpliz​ I may not have understood this correctly, but I believe the number of downstream channels is always 32 for DOCSIS 3.0 and DOCSIS 3.1 modems that can handle 32 downstream channels. What speed you get through those channels depends on your plan. That is, your plan determines how many channels are actually in use. Each channel (and the type of modulation on that channel) taken as an aggregate determines your downstream speed. Upstream speed is similar, but it seems that rather than always having 8 upstream channels in use, only the number of channels necessary to support the upstream speed being supported is configured. My cable modem has 5 upstream channels configured. I have 800/20 Mbps service. The 1000/40 Mbps and 1200/40 Mbps probably need 6 upstream channels. All 8 upstream channels would only get configured for some speed above 40 Mbps. Maybe 100 or 200 Mbps upstream, for example.

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It doesn't work that way.

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@schpliz very interesting catch, but this modem is used on several different ISPs, but you state you count 6 upstream on your mb8611, mine only say 4 and mine don’t reboot, very good catch indeed…

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