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Monday, February 27th, 2023 10:34 PM

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Internet connection issues

My internet connection speed was upgraded by Comcast from 800Mbps to 1000Gbps. Post that upgrade, I started getting reminders to upgrade my router to take advantage of the higher speed. I have bought 2-3 router/modems (Netgear CAX30, Arris G34) that are supported by Xfinity, but the connection drops keep happening. An Xfinity service rep has visited my place and confirmed that the signal strength to the router is >=1Gbps, but did not check the wifi issue per se.

Arris support asked me to check the downstream / upstream QAM and noticed that 1 of the upstream AM channels is not as per required strength and that I need Xfinity to sort it. Can someone please help to fix that? I am trying to ask the chatbot, but its not connecting me to an agent.

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567 Messages

2 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to let us know about the troubles you're having with these drops, @pulkit. We never want to see you go through anything like this, but we're here to help. Without knowing your signal levels, it sounds like you're having the same issues as this post. Please take a moment to read through the post, and the comments our expert EG has left, and let us know if this helps.

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10 Messages

2 years ago

Thanks @XfinityJoshuaE for the response. The manufacturer expected levels are at https://arris.secure.force.com/consumers/articles/General_FAQs/G34-G36-Cable-Signal-Levels

It seems there is a problem with one of the upstream rows (index 9) and the power level needs to be >=45

Index Frequency (MHz) Power Level (dBmV) Channel Type Symbol Rate (KSym/sec) Modulation Lock Status
2 29.2 46.270599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
9 39.6 43.750000 US_TYPE_ATDMA 1280 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
4 16.4 45.270599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
3 22.8 46.020599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
1 35.6 46.020599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked


Update on the chat: was on chat for 3 hours yesterday and spoke to 5 different agents, but none of them were able to resolve the issue. The connection drops keep happening impacting voice, video, chats on wifi .. also, have another tech appointment for tomorrow hoping to get it resolved then.

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Thanks for sharing your signal levels, @pulkit. That's definitely lower than we want, but we have some things we can try. Have you already attempted the troubleshooting steps offered by EG on that post I linked in my last reply?

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Visitor

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hi @XfinityJoshuaE an Xfinity tech had visited a week or two back and he had checked the cables till the router (as suggested by EG). He at that point in time confirmed on the speed of the signal being >1Gbps to the router, but did not check the signal strengths / wifi issues.

Yesterday I was also on a chat session for 3 hours across 5 xfinity agents asking them to fix the faulty strength from their side but none of them could do it. Now I have another tech appointment for tomorrow. Hope that will help resolve this issue once and for all, otherwise there is no point of having an elevated speed if I am unable to use it properly..

JFYI .. if I connect my old router (Arris SBG7400AC2) on the same cable, there are no signal drops experienced (maybe cos it operates at different signal levels)..

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Thanks for the additional details, @pulkit. That helps paint a better picture for me. For the previous technician visit, it's possible that they didn't remark on the signal levels for the incoming strength because they were all within spec. If that weren't the case, I'm certain they would have had more to say, and would have taken steps to improve upon it. Our technicians are experts in their field, so I know you're in good hands here.

The technician tomorrow will be able to investigate this more in depth, having the previous meeting to build on. That said, if the signal was great coming into the home, it's likely an issue past that point. The fact that your old modem (Arris SBG7400AC2) is behaving better is only reaffirming my confidence this theory, but I'm not there in person to confirm this. Not only that, but the signals you're measuring at the modem (especially the upstream), are only measuring the power present to transmit your upload from devices within your home at the modem specifically. This means that it's likely that something is happening before the data reaches our infrastructure to weaken the signal.

 

Please know that I am saying all of this is only likely. There are certainly other reasons this could happen, but I am only able to make use of the data we have already discussed in this conversation.

 

What I would like to do from here is check back in with you tomorrow after the appointment to see how things went. If we need to take this to a more private setting to get this investigated with the account information we can at that time. How does that sound?

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Hello, @pulkit. I hope you're doing well today. How did the visit go?

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Visitor

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Hi @XfinityJoshuaE the technician replaced the wiring from the pole to the house, the splitter, redid the connections. That improved the signal quality and improved the power level to 46.75 on the upstream. The connection drops have reduced for sure though not eliminated 100%.  

Unerrored Codewords Correctable Codewords Uncorrectable Codewords
2361391844 0 0
2361521703 1 0
2361593451 0 0
2361658988 0 0
2361743987 2 0
2361865235 2 0
2361955341 22 13
2362024725 2 0
2362147676 14 0
2362240275 5 0

Index Frequency (MHz) Power Level (dBmV) Channel Type Symbol Rate (KSym/sec) Modulation Lock Status
3 22.8 48.770599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
9 39.6 46.750000 US_TYPE_ATDMA 1280 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
4 16.4 48.270599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
2 29.2 49.270599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked
1 35.6 49.020599 US_TYPE_ATDMA 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM Locked

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Visitor

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10 Messages

2 years ago

Was checking the zoom call drops and performed a tracert to their server from my side .. looks like request are timing out within Xfinity itself.. who can help fix this?

C:\>tracert 170.114.52.2

Tracing route to 170.114.52.2 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     6 ms     5 ms     2 ms  arrisatom.hsd1.il.comcast.net [192.168.0.1]
  2    13 ms    11 ms    10 ms  96.120.26.165
  3    11 ms    13 ms    17 ms  68.87.209.173
  4    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  po-100-xar02.wchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [162.151.47.229]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6    17 ms    21 ms    16 ms  be-502-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [96.216.150.118]
  7     *        *       19 ms  be-32231-cs23.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.40.57]
  8     *       16 ms     *     be-2311-pe11.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.33.202]
  9     *       26 ms    28 ms  173.167.56.42
 10    15 ms    17 ms    24 ms  172.70.124.2
 11    15 ms    18 ms    15 ms  170.114.52.2

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert 170.114.52.2

Tracing route to 170.114.52.2 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     3 ms     2 ms     3 ms  arrisatom.hsd1.il.comcast.net [192.168.0.1]
  2    10 ms    15 ms    10 ms  96.120.26.165
  3    17 ms    11 ms    15 ms  68.87.209.173
  4    16 ms    11 ms    12 ms  po-100-xar02.wchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [162.151.47.229]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6    15 ms    18 ms    18 ms  be-502-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [96.216.150.118]
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8    22 ms    24 ms    13 ms  be-2311-pe11.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.33.202]
  9    17 ms    14 ms    15 ms  173.167.56.42
 10    35 ms    20 ms    14 ms  172.70.124.2
 11    60 ms    20 ms    15 ms  170.114.52.2

Trace complete.

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Visitor

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10 Messages

2 years ago

similarly tracing route to instagram shows requests timing out within xfinity at the similar points


C:\>tracert 157.240.208.174

Tracing route to instagram-p42-shv-01-cgk1.fbcdn.net [157.240.208.174]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  arrisatom.hsd1.il.comcast.net [192.168.0.1]
  2    11 ms    11 ms    12 ms  96.120.26.165
  3    16 ms    10 ms    18 ms  68.87.209.173
  4     9 ms    10 ms    10 ms  po-100-xar02.wchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [162.151.47.229]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6    15 ms    14 ms    13 ms  be-502-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [96.216.150.118]
  7    16 ms    17 ms    17 ms  be-32231-cs23.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.40.57]
  8    23 ms    13 ms    15 ms  be-2313-pe13.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.32.94]
  9     *       19 ms    19 ms  75.149.230.210
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11    39 ms    21 ms    16 ms  ae14.ar04.ord3.tfbnw.net [157.240.42.26]
 12    15 ms    15 ms    22 ms  ae6.bb01.ord1.tfbnw.net [129.134.44.154]
 13    20 ms    21 ms    23 ms  ae102.bb01.stl1.tfbnw.net [157.240.53.225]
 14    46 ms    44 ms    51 ms  ae107.bb01.den2.tfbnw.net [129.134.102.48]
 15    64 ms    65 ms    66 ms  ae26.dr01.prn6.tfbnw.net [129.134.102.43]
 16    64 ms    70 ms    64 ms  ae7.bb01.pdx1.tfbnw.net [31.13.27.62]
 17   164 ms     *      166 ms  ae1.bb01.hnd2.tfbnw.net [129.134.37.214]
 18     *      230 ms     *     ae9.bb03.xsp1.tfbnw.net [129.134.98.89]
 19   252 ms   268 ms   249 ms  ae154.ar01.cgk1.tfbnw.net [129.134.97.171]
 20   254 ms   249 ms   249 ms  ae110.pr02.cgk1.tfbnw.net [31.13.25.17]
 21   241 ms   244 ms   240 ms  po102.psw01.cgk1.tfbnw.net [157.240.50.199]
 22   256 ms   255 ms   257 ms  173.252.67.21
 23   233 ms   233 ms   234 ms  instagram-p42-shv-01-cgk1.fbcdn.net [157.240.208.174]

Trace complete.

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Visitor

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2 years ago

@XfinityJoshuaE @XfinityCassandra can you please help? I am unable to WFH due to these intermittent connection drops even after the signal quality seems to be in check

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10 Messages

2 years ago

tracert to MS teams server is worse 

C:\>tracert teams.microsoft.com

Tracing route to s-0005.s-dc-msedge.net [52.113.194.132]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     3 ms     1 ms  arrisatom.hsd1.il.comcast.net [192.168.0.1]
  2    10 ms    11 ms    10 ms  96.120.26.165
  3    11 ms    10 ms    10 ms  68.87.209.173
  4    10 ms    15 ms     9 ms  po-100-xar02.wchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [162.151.47.229]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6    18 ms    15 ms    18 ms  be-502-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [96.216.150.118]
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-2212-pe12.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.33.214]
  9    14 ms    15 ms    13 ms  50.248.117.178
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11    18 ms    21 ms    13 ms  13.104.141.105
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15    70 ms    68 ms    69 ms  52.113.194.132

Trace complete.

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2 years ago

... 1 of the upstream AM channels is not as per required strength ...

Arris began saying that upstream power should be "at least 45 dBmV" several years ago. I don't know why, because it's complete nonsense. The upstream power levels are controlled automatically and continuously by Comcast's equipment and do not need to be above 45 dBmV. That's because, as long as upstream power is not maxed out, what's important is not the level at the modem, it's the level (and quality) of the modem's signal as received at Comcast, which they control by adjusting the modem's transmit power. In fact, many customers have service that works perfectly fine with upstream modem power levels below 45 dBmV. Some even operate with the upstream below 35 dBmV. Comcast's signal level ranges are given in https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/connection-troubleshooting-tips/602da777c5375f08cdea3db9. If Arris' products did not work in those ranges, CableLabs and Comcast would never approve the devices.

... looks like request are timing out within Xfinity ...

The trace continues past the timeouts at the intermediate hops and reaches the destination, so the timeouts are probably not significant. Please see https://www.dslreports.com/faq/14068.

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2 years ago

Thanks @BruceW but that really doesnt help in resolving my issue...

If the particular product is approved by Xfinity to be used as a modem in their network, then I expect that the manufacturer and ISP have gone through the device configurations (https://arris.secure.force.com/consumers/articles/General_FAQs/G34-G36-Cable-Signal-Levels) and sorted it out before the ISP is approving the device to be used in their network. Secondly, the link you shared also has a range and all that the manufacturer is saying is that the device needs to be >=45dBmV (which is still lower than the upper limit of xfinity in my case). 

​Upstream Power Level​ ​+35dBmV​ ​+50dBmV​

I am not sure what else then is causing the drops ... i am unable to work from home due to this as my zoom call audio keeps dropping sometime to the extent that zoom itself restarts. Same with Microsoft Teams, same with facebook videos / instagram reels etc (across any of my devices - iphone, tablet, laptop, macbook) ... basically it does not seem to be a device issue at my end and has only started happening once the connection speed was upgraded by comcast to 1Gbps and I am only replacing the modem / router to be able to utilize the higher speeds (but dont want it to be at the cost of QOS)... Is it the unrecoverable errors / tracert timing out within xfinity network, bad cables before the pole or whatever else.. as my ISP, I expect the experts in this company to help sort it out for me ... I am paying for the service at the money being asked and expect the quality without me being inconvenienced for it for so long without being shunted from pillar to post.

https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/high-packet-loss-intermittent-disconnects/6201dcabe5fd17166fe4c46a - check the response from the official employee to this user.

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Visitor

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10 Messages

2 years ago

Another thing I noticed, when I go to https://www.xfinity.com/support/devices/#auth it shows my device as ARRIS TG3482G, while when I check the Xfinity app or my xfinity login, it indicates it as ARRIS G34 (the correct model) .. not sure if that is causing the issue since the prior model is voice / telephony compatible, while I only have internet

Had mentioned this to the tech on visit, but he confirmed that the device is showing as G34 at his end too .. but since the problem is not fixed ...

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@pulkit. I see your DM. Let's continue there and see what we can do.

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