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Sunday, August 11th, 2024 4:40 PM

TV service through Cable Card on TiVo has stopped working

Since yesterday all channels display a black screen with the message: "This channel is not authorized. Contact your cable provider for more information V58)". My service is through cable card in my TiVo. I have reset the TiVo multiple times with no luck in restoring my TV service. How can I get support?

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5 months ago

@Magicspell Thank you for posting on our community forum! I want to stick with you until we make sure all your Xfinity channels are working. Are you able to verify if the TiVo Diagnostics shows the cable card is paired and authorized?

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@XfinityEmilyB​  Thank you for the follow-up.  Yes, TiVo diagnostics reports the cable card is paired and functioning properly (receiving a signal).  BTW, this system has been functioning for well over 10+ years.

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@Magicspell Perfect, thank you for checking that for me. let's continue working on this together. Please send a direct message by clicking the chat icon in the upper right corner of the page, click on the pen and paper icon, then enter “Xfinity Support” in the “To” section. Please include your name and address and I'll be happy to help.

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Direct Message sent as requested.  Thank you

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@Magicspell we see the message on our end, and we will continue our conversation over there!

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Yes, the tivo shows it is paired and receiving a signal. However, go to the Cable Card Menu page, and on the DAVIC page and look to see if it's locked. If it's not (mine isn't), then it won't process signals. Go the the CA page in the same menu and look for status. If it doesn't say Ready (mine says not ready), it's not able to process the signals.  Comcast has no idea how to fix this. I believe it's the SNR ratio being too high on my unit. Check yours on the DVR diagnostics page. The SNR shoud be below 35 but above 29. Mine is 40-43 and Comcast doesn't want to mess with the area SNR because "no one else is complaining". Good luck to you.

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5 months ago

@Magicspell @XfinityEmilyB @XfinityWilliam 

Please circle back here and post any possible solutions for the issue here in these open public forums so that all readers here may benefit from the exchange / info. This is in keeping with the spirit for which these public help forums were originally intended. Thank you.

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I'm having the exact same problem that started at the same time.  Spent hours on the phone so far and had a technician come out that wasn't able to solve it this morning

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Spent the entire day Sunday with support.  We were unable to resolve the issue and they opened a ticket to get specialized support.  Unfortunately, the issue hasn't be resolved for me yet either.

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Greetings, @Hokie-Dave! I hope your week has been treating you well. Thanks so much for taking a moment out of your busy day to leave a post on our community forum. I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with your cable card as well, but you have definitely come to the right place for assistance.

 

If you could send our team a direct message with your full name, the name listed on the account (if different), and the service address associated with your account, I'd be more than happy to look into this for you.

 

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@EG​ I know this is an old thread, but am responding since others have run into this issue more recently.  I was able to resolve my original issue by obtaining a replacement Cable Card from Xfinity/Comcast about 4 months ago.  I see that apparently Comcast will not replace Cable Cards anymore (which is a little alarming going forward).

FYI, my original Cable Card was a Motorola M-Card.  I do not recall what the replacement card was, but I don't recall it being a Motorola card.

If Comcast will not be supporting the use of Cable Cards going forward, is that the "end" of TiVo compatibility?  I was thinking of upgrading my TiVo, but if Cable Cards won't be available from Comcast how would I be able to set up a new TiVo box?

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25 days ago

I would also like to get help with the same issue.   However, I don't see a way to Direct Message as described in a post.  I do not have a Direct Message icon after creating a Forum login.  [“Direct Message” icon in the top-right corner of the screen, next to the bell icon, click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon, then type or select "Xfinity Support". ]

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25 days ago

I also have the same issue (cable card stopped working - was paired - now says it is unpaired - no channels authorized - support not helpful) looking to send a direct message for assistance.  

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25 days ago

... cable card stopped working ...

If the card is a Scientific-Atlanta/Cisco/Technicolor PowerKEY card, it may have died due to a date-related internal flaw.

See https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/time-warp-could-cause-millions-of-old-powerkey-set-tops-to-go-on-the-blink.

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25 days ago

It is a PowerKey card.  That is an interesting article.  I guess that Xfinity didn't come up with a fix in the last 2 years.  Is there any way to tell if that is what happened?  I did look for times in the cable card menus and there was one called current time which had the correct time - but I don't know if the important security-related time would be displayed.  

That is disappointing if that is the cause (especially as Xfinity stopped distributing CableCards the month before a bunch were going to stop working.)  Thanks for the info.  

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... Is there any way to tell if that is what happened? ...

I've been looking for that info ever since I became aware of the date flaw, but have not  been able to find it. I can tell you that I have a Tivo Edge using a Technicolor Multi-Stream PowerKEY Model PKM908 card (printed dated 04/01/20) and that it's still working.

The only thing I've noticed that's different lately is on the 2nd "CableCARD CA Screen" an item called "SubExpireTime" that, for years, contained the date and time that the card would lose its authorization, now just says "N/A". Is this a change Comcast make to deal with the time flaw? That's my guess, but I have no inside info (and good luck finding anyone in the company who actually understands CableCards), so it's only a guess. FWIW the card's firmware (from the "CableCARD Diag Screen") "OS Ver" is "PKEY2.0.1_F.p.1101, Build Time: Nov 2 2022".

I'm going to continue to try to find specifics on which cards might fail and what, if anything, Comcast is doing about it, but I'm not hopeful.

It is more than a little curious that they decided to exit the CableCard business just as the date flaw was kicking in. Always lovable, our Comcast!

ETA: Just noticed "SubExpireTime" on the PKM908's 2nd "CableCARD CA Screen" once again contains a date and time.

        If only Comcast/Xfinity would come up with information about what is happening with its CableCards!

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24 days ago

Just checked - on my 2nd CA screen - my SubExpireTime has a date of March 2129.  So that might be a key indicator.  

Thanks for the info.  At least I have an idea about what happened.  

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This has happened to me on and off for years. It happened again this morning. The key indicator to me is that my cable card is in the "not locked" position (DAVIC info page on tivo's cable card menu). When the card is not locked, it won't process the signal from comcast. I don't know why this happens but the tech I talked to today said it happens when the SNR ( signal to noise ratio) is off and there's too much noise or not enough signal. Apparently a T3 line went down last night and they're having issues from it. They think that's the problem and are looking into it.

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My SNR is 42-43, which is deemed to be in the too high range (max is 35). I'm hoping that Xfinity can fix this.

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24 days ago

... my SubExpireTime has a date of March 2129 ...

Weird, and not a good sign, for sure. Just curious: what is the card's model number? It's printed on the card (mine shows "PowerKEY Model PKM908"), and the "CableCARD Diag" screen shows shows "0908" under "H/W Model".

It's worth checking the Tivo's signal stats before declaring a CableCard problem. See https://tivoidp.tivo.com/tivoCommunitySupport/s/article/Troubleshooting-Digital-TV-Signals. Under "Signal Quality" ignore the "Maximum SNR" spec, there's no such thing.

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24 days ago

I also had one of my two Tivos with a cablecard go to the V58 channel not authorized issue.  I've had this from time to time as well, but this time it seems to be constant.  It is a Scientific Atlanta Powerkey PKM800, but not sure if it's impacted by the time issue referenced.   

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24 days ago

Model Number PKM800 / 3-23-2007 / HW 1.2 / "F".  Looks like my card is an oldie.  "CableCARD Diag" shows 0800.Ver: 0012 under H/W Model

My OS Ver is "PKEY 1.5.3_F.p.1201 / Build Date Mar 12, 2014.  (I know my card has tried to update before - but didn't see a message indicating success or failure - so I don't know if that is the latest version for my model number or whether something else happened).   

My signal lock and signal quality look okay.  Signal Quality is 42-43 DB.  So, as long as the Maximum SNR is not a thing, it looks like my signal quality is okay.

It seems more and more likely that my card is affected by the date flaw.  While I still hold out (fleeting) hope - it seems my Comcast relationship might have reached its end.  

Thanks again for all the info.

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@Romera​ The maximum is indeed a thing. I am at 42-43 and it is too high, I can't get the cable cards authorized. The tivo help page (see link above) says

  • The SNR reading must be within the following ranges to give good-quality video.

    A higher SNR reading means that the video signal is stronger relative to the noise level on the line. If the SNR value is lower than the minimum, contact your cable provider, who can test and improve the signal on the cable line.
     

    1. Minimum SNR of QAM 64 is 23 dB and minimum SNR of QAM 256 is 29 dB.

    2. Maximum SNR of QAM 64 is 30 dB and maximum SNR of QAM 256 is 35 dB.

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I checked and my SNR was around 38dB.  I put an attenuator on the line which brought it down to 33 but it's still getting the "not authorized" error.  I do have the PKM800 SA card so I'm guessing it's the clock issue.  Mine shows that the CA time is 2129 and the expiration is 2129.  

Have worked with tech support today and they have tried to send resets with no luck.  Only option at this point is to get an X1 box or cancel my service and move away from TIVO.  Sad that they aren't going to support us any longer.  

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23 days ago

Got a callback this AM from Advanced Support.  Apparently a number of cards were not taking regular firmware updates and they were pushed out manually over Thanksgiving.  Engineering continues to work on why a large number failed.

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This is good to hear.  I know my card that stopped working was attempting firmware updates over the past couple of weeks.  Looks like possibly it didn't get updated.

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22 days ago

I just read this in my bill dated 9/22/24  - "Equipment Update: Starting on October 24, 2024, Xfinity will no longer provide new CableCARDs to new or existing customers. If you require new
TV equipment, please call 1-800-XFINITY to speak with an agent who can assist."   Essentially my TiVo is now non-functioning.  I got out of the habit of reading the comments in my bills.....I wish I hadn't.  I also read that the FCC no longer requires Cable companies to support CableCards.....so of course they won't and that put an end to Comcast/Xfinity supporting CableCards.  If anyone finds a miracle, I'm all ears. 

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Thank you for that clarification @par32!  Are you able to attempt replacing the device in a local Xfinity Store?

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my mom's tivo stopped working as well...xfinity cable card, all channels show 'this channel is not authorized. contact your cable provider for more information (V58)' I'll call xfinity on her behalf, but I'm not expecting anything helpful.

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fwiw, xfinity support (in India, but it seemed like the guy had some idea what was going on) said that the cable card 'was expired' and it would no longer work. ever. they're willing to 'give' us a 'free' cable box for a year.  then it'll be $10 a month. that [Edited: Language], 'cause it's not tivo. 

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17 days ago

I had started a thread about V58 errors. This is the death of your tivo. You have to contact your cable company's cable card division and have them try and reauthorize your cards. I have Xfinity/Comcast and this has been going on for over a week with us. It went on for a month back in June. Comcast says they're not supporting cable cards anymore, since the FCC stopped mandating that cable companies support them in Oct this year.

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thanks for the post. Since this was my mom‘s machine, and I was working with limited time and energy, I went ahead and got the X one box for her. It is not nearly as good as the tivo in any way, shape or form, but we needed something that would get some form of television working for her quickly and that’s what we got. disappointed but not surprised.

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