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Wednesday, November 13th, 2024 3:39 PM

"SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing" on SB8200 Modem

I've been having intermittent connection issues for the past couple months after 5+ years of no service issues. I can tell looking at my modem that it's the dreaded QAM/QPSK error, but don't think anything looks out of spec on the channels. Haven't changed anything within the house in terms of coax connections either, so would think it maybe has something to do with the drop out to the neighborhood box?

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status Modulation Frequency Power SNR/MER Corrected Uncorrectables
9 Locked QAM256 549000000 Hz 3.0 dBmV 41.3 dB 0 0
1 Locked QAM256 495000000 Hz 3.4 dBmV 42.1 dB 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 507000000 Hz 3.6 dBmV 42.1 dB 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 513000000 Hz 3.3 dBmV 41.9 dB 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 519000000 Hz 3.4 dBmV 42.0 dB 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 525000000 Hz 3.5 dBmV 42.2 dB 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 531000000 Hz 3.4 dBmV 42.2 dB 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 537000000 Hz 3.6 dBmV 42.2 dB 0 0
8 Locked QAM256 543000000 Hz 3.2 dBmV 41.7 dB 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 555000000 Hz 2.7 dBmV 41.4 dB 0 0
11 Locked QAM256 561000000 Hz 2.8 dBmV 41.7 dB 0 0
12 Locked QAM256 567000000 Hz 2.3 dBmV 41.6 dB 0 0
13 Locked QAM256 573000000 Hz 2.2 dBmV 41.7 dB 0 0
14 Locked QAM256 579000000 Hz 1.8 dBmV 41.4 dB 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 585000000 Hz 1.6 dBmV 41.5 dB 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 591000000 Hz 1.3 dBmV 41.5 dB 0 0
17 Locked QAM256 597000000 Hz 1.0 dBmV 41.3 dB 0 0
18 Locked QAM256 603000000 Hz 0.7 dBmV 41.2 dB 0 0
19 Locked QAM256 609000000 Hz 0.3 dBmV 41.0 dB 0 0
20 Locked QAM256 615000000 Hz 0.1 dBmV 41.0 dB 0 0
21 Locked QAM256 621000000 Hz -0.4 dBmV 40.8 dB 0 0
22 Locked QAM256 627000000 Hz -0.6 dBmV 40.6 dB 0 0
23 Locked QAM256 633000000 Hz -0.4 dBmV 40.7 dB 0 0
37 Locked Other 762000000 Hz -0.5 dBmV 38.5 dB 933357784 0
38 Not Locked QAM256 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 42.4 dB 0 0
39 Locked QAM256 471000000 Hz 4.0 dBmV 42.3 dB 0 0
40 Locked QAM256 477000000 Hz 4.1 dBmV 42.4 dB 0 0
41 Locked QAM256 483000000 Hz 4.0 dBmV 42.2 dB 0 0
42 Locked QAM256 489000000 Hz 3.8 dBmV 42.4 dB 0 0
43 Locked QAM256 447000000 Hz 4.0 dBmV 42.5 dB 0 0
44 Locked QAM256 453000000 Hz 4.0 dBmV 42.3 dB 0 0
45 Locked QAM256 459000000 Hz 3.8 dBmV 42.5 dB 0 0


Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
1 1 Locked SC-QAM Upstream 35600000 Hz 6400000 Hz 33.0 dBmV
2 2 Locked SC-QAM Upstream 29200000 Hz 6400000 Hz 33.0 dBmV
3 3 Locked SC-QAM Upstream 22800000 Hz 6400000 Hz 33.0 dBmV
4 4 Locked SC-QAM Upstream 16400000 Hz 6400000 Hz 34.0 dBmV
5 9 Locked SC-QAM Upstream 39600000 Hz 1600000 Hz 30.0 dBmV

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6 months ago

Hello, @fightinillini229! Thank you for taking the time to visit our Xfinity Community Forum and posting this connectivity concern along with some specs. You've come to the right place! Between our awesome Digital Care Team and wonderful community, I'm sure we can help you figure this out :) Of course, a great place to start is with these Connection Troubleshooting Tips. Do you see anything there you hadn't thought to check yet? If so, may I have you take some time to make any necessary adjustments before letting us know if you see a difference in service/connectivity? Don't worry. If we need to take a closer look at your account, service, and equipment, we'll prompt you to send us a direct message as we're always happy to see what can be done remotely (or by scheduling a tech visit).

Nothing here that we haven't tried multiple times. Additionally, phone support has sent multiple reset signals and "updated the modem firmware" but still intermittent issues.

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Thank you for running through those steps @fightinillini229. If you are still experiencing those internet issues I would be happy to troubleshoot those from here. Could you send me a direct message with the full name and complete address for your service? 

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I have sent a DM as instructed above.

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fightinillini229 We have received it and look forward to assisting you there! 

 

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6 months ago

@fightinillini229 @XfinityJohnG 

Please circle back here and post any possible solutions for the issue here in these open public forums so that all readers here may benefit from the exchange / info. This is in keeping with the spirit for which these public help forums were originally intended. Thank you.

6 months ago

Was told CMTS looked okay and despite being able to provide specific instances where I had the network drops, support insisted a technician needed to be scheduled to rule out internal issues. Fine, scheduled for Sunday morning but then received an automated voicemail last night saying "because there are no detected issues, we will be cancelling your appointment."

It is absolutely ridiculous that Xfinity "runs a check" then cancels appointments if there's no immediate errors detected on their end. I've seen many instances of this occur across the forums to folks having similar issues that require a technician visit. I've been trying to get it rescheduled but keep getting stuck in the automated system so have resorted back to the same DMs from yesterday to try and get it scheduled again. What are the odds it is automatically cancelled again?

5 months ago

Just an update as I feel most of these types of posts just die once the support team moves the discussion to DMs. The technician came and confirmed there was obviously no issue with anything in the house, which is unsurprising since the drop comes into the basement from the box on the side of the house directly into the modem. He found a loose connection on the exterior box on the side of the house which I had forgotten to check previously, but other than that, couldn't find anything else that could be causing the issues. Mentioned that if the issues persisted they'd have to "send a line team out."

Unfortunately the loose connection wasn't the source of the issue as over the last few weeks there are still brief intermittent drops (only ever a minute or two) but just long enough to cause everyone in the house to lose internet. I can see a couple of T3 timeouts as well as an MDD message timeout event type code 4 within the past week.

Still communicating with Comcast via DMs and will continue to update here so folks who have similar issues maybe can problem solve faster once they figure out what's causing our issues.

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5 months ago

Thanks for updating your topic ! Sorry you're still having problems... Keep on them about it !! Good luck !

5 months ago

Second tech visit was Sunday morning, thankfully with the same tech as the first visit who remembered being at my home previously. This time he replaced the line from the box in the back corner of the yard to the house (which will need to be buried) as the next step to try and remedy the intermittent T3 timeout issues. Unfortunately later that afternoon I had the same T3 timeout as well as the following day so we've eliminated issues from the box in the back corner of the back yard all the way to the modem. Assume next steps will be whatever the line is that goes to that smaller box in the corner of the yard.

4 months ago

Another 2 weeks have passed, another update. Running the line to a much further pedestal did not fix the issues (as previously mentioned) and actually made the upstream power figures significantly worse because the line being run was across multiple backyards now.

Finally got an in-house Comcast technician to visit this morning (vs what I assume are the level 1 contractors) who asked me to outline what had been done so far. He asked the standard "did you replace your modem, did you replace your wifi routers" which worried me because, as I had outline to the previous contractors, I replaced everything prior to ever flagging to Comcast and the modem was directly fed from the drop coming into the basement. He told me he was going to hook in and monitor and see if he could see any of the timeouts and look at each of the pedestals but if he couldn't see anything on his end, would recommend trying one of Comcast's own modems. Again, a worrying response as it seemed fairly clear that the issues were not within the house nor hardware related.

Thankfully, after 15 minutes, he came back and said he could definitely see the upstream interference and it wasn't just isolated to our home, there were approximately 70 customers in our immediate couple blocks who would also be having these issues. He mentioned he wasn't sure why the contractor was logging everything as "non-service interruption issues" but said he was opening a ticket with the line technician who he chatted with on the phone as well.

Hoping that the "service interruption" ticket escalated to the line crew will resolve this multi-month saga, and will continue to post updates for people who experience this in the future. As others have mentioned in a few of the other threads I found that didn't immediately die when Comcast moves the conversation to DMs, it seems like for anyone who is having these types of timeout issues is going to take multiple visits and continued follow up pressure from the customer to get them to actually look into and escalate properly.

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@fightinillini229 

Good luck with it !

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4 months ago

I had this issue happen to me with my SB8200 5 years ago after years of great connections.  I had speed dropping to 2mbps and everything coming to a halt. I had to restart the modem every day and sometimes many times a day. It turned out to be the modem. There were multiple complaints about that modem (still are) here.  I replaces that with a Netgear CM1100 modem and all issues went away.

@Shankarhokie​ one thing I did prior to engaging Comcast once the T3 timeouts started in October was replace both the modem and routers as it would have been far easier to troubleshoot on my side. Unfortunately it wasn't a modem issue as I replicated the issues across multiple modems (including a CM1100) prior to any technician visits. Unfortunately no matter how much troubleshooting I did on my side, Comcast still had to start at square one and rule out everything inside (which was easy in my case) but it's been the further exterior line troubleshooting that has dragged on and on.

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Hi there, I hope you're having a good day. I'm just reaching out to you to see how your service appointment went today?-Richard

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