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Monday, January 9th, 2023 1:22 AM

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Motorola MB8611 modem keeps restarting - firmware issue

I have owned my own Motorola MB8611 cable modem since September 2022, and since the middle of December 2022 it has been restarting multiple times per day. After a lot of troubleshooting, I figured out that it is related to the firmware, aka software. With Firmware 8611-19.2.20 it is stable, but then Xfinity updates it to 8611-21.3.7. The update causes it to reset, disrupting my internet service for a few minutes. Then the modem restarts a few times within an hour, disrupting the internet service every time. After two restarts, the firmware reverts to 8611-19.2.20, and my internet service works until Xfinity detects that the firmware needs to be updated (usually a few hours). The firmware gets updated to 8611-21.3.7, and the resetting process repeats on and on. I tried resetting the modem by pressing the reset button, and this doesn't stop this problem from happening.

Based on what I've read in this forum, this is a VERY COMMON issue.

Can you help me, and everyone else with this modem, solve this issue so our internet is stable again? Is it an issue with Xfinity or an issue with Motorola? I have temporarily switched back to my old cable modem, but I'd like to be able to use this MB8611 modem because it is capable of much faster speeds than my old modem.

Thanks.

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2 years ago

FWIW - I have 4 upstream channels and have the reboot issue. My upstream channels do show as type SC-QAM. My upstream Pwr (dBmV) is 49ish which seems to be a little over spec.

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2 years ago

@user_210e12  Just curious if the symb rate is all the same for all four upstream channels?

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@Jlavaseur​ Yes, it's 5120 for all of them.

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@user_210e12​ 

FWIW, you should get that marginal upstream power level addressed. If it isn't already, its a problem just waiting to happen. It may be drifting out of spec intermittently.

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@EG​ Thanks. I had seen some other responses (maybe yours) that mentioned that as being a possible problem. I may have to check where the line is coming into the house for any issues there. Other than that, there is a single Antronix 2-way splitter (CMC2002H-A) with one split going to the cable modem. 

Of course, my older Netgear modem had no issues.

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@Jlavaseur​ Not in my case:

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FWIW. Your upstream power is too high / almost out of spec as well. There's very little wiggle room.

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2 years ago

Just chiming in here. Been dealing with resets since Early January 2023 as well with my MB8611. Tech came out and said it was resetting but not losing blocksync. Sounds like this issue is common. I switched back to my older MB8600 and its been fine since. I sent motorola a RMA message but they haven't replied yet. I hope I can get it exchanged out since its still in warranty.

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2 years ago

Same modem an issue where my modem is rebooting itself several times a day with the current firmware - 8611-21.3.7

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2 years ago

I had exactly the same problem since later Dec 2022.  current firmware version 8611-21.3.7.   It has rebooted 5 times over the past 7 hours.

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2 years ago

Still no fix?   Why doesn't xfinity just revert to the older firmware that doesn't break?  

Anyone switching to AT&T Fiber?  This is just embarrassing for them.

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@primerGrey​ I'd totally love to switch to AT&T fiber, except WoW had a monopoly on my neighborhood for 10 years and xFinity was the only service to break that monopoly when the agreement expired. Now I've switched to them and purchased this MB8611, and guess what...? Same problem.

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2 years ago

My modem rebooted and picked up 8611-19.2.18 which appears to be working fine. I hope they don't try to push the bad update to my modem again. xFinity, please fix your software pushes.

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@user_b86c6a​ Did your firmware get updated to 21.3.7 now?

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2 years ago

Just wanted to add in and say I experienced the worst week of headaches from troubleshooting this stupid modem. Motorola and Xfinity need to figure this out, or at least acknowledge the issue and let potential customers know there is a current issue with the MB8611 and xfinity. We shouldn't have to be doing their job, for free!! I finally gave up and reverted to my older Motorola MB7220 and haven't had a single disconnect yet.

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2 years ago

Just adding my experience to the list here. I upgraded to an MB8611 back in September 2022 and had zero issues until late December 2022. My modem shows the same behavior as others... rebooting randomly and bouncing between the two different versions of firmware.

Xfinity support wasn't very helpful. I eventually insisted they send a tech out. The tech was only somewhat more helpful... they confirmed that my modem had rebooted 84 times in last month. They checked all of my connections (both inside and outside) and my signal levels were in spec. I lost faith when they kept insisting that I had to upgrade my modem's firmware to resolve the problem. (The DOCSIS standard doesn't permit that.)

I've tried re-activating my modem, but that didn't help. (Mentioned as a possible fix on a Reddit thread.)

I've started the RMA process with Motorola Network, but they are dragging their feet. (Maybe they know something is up?)

I only upgraded to this modem because I wanted something that was supported and provided 2.5GbE for future proofing. I thought, maybe I'll just get an Arris S33 and see if that fairs better... but it looks like folks are reporting similar issues with that device. Here's hoping this mess gets sorted out.

If only I hadn't sold my old Netgear CM1000!

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@user_2400e7​ I switched from the MB8611 on firmware 21.3.7, which was dropping every hour or so, to the Arris S33 last week and it has been running perfect for about a week.

I re-activated my MB8611 last night to see if any progress has been made - to my surprise its now on 19.2.18 and running for 14 hours without any drops...

I spoke with a Motorola agent last night and they said both Motorola and Comcast are aware of the issue with MB8611 and working on it... maybe the rollback is their solution for now.

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Just an update on where things stand...

On February 1st, my modem rolled back to version 19.2.18 and stayed there. Didn't have any more drops except one, which seemed to be an actual outage. On February 16th, it upgraded to version 21.3.7 again and the drops came back. Motorola finally got me my replacement modem, which I've swapped out today. After activating, it's running version 19.2.18.

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@user_2400e7​ Has fw 19.2.18 continued to work ok for you? I picked up an MB8611 4 days ago (I was unaware of this issue) and after working fine for a couple of days..I've now started getting intermittent drop outs consistent with the symptoms of this issue..yet my modem is running fw 19.2.18. Xfinity says the lines look fine from their testing...I've had 4-5 drop outs today alone.

This modems fw was initially messed up (admin page not accessible and xfinity activation couldn't find it) but a factory reset (holding reset button for 10 seconds) resolved that problem. IF the consensus is that 19.2.18 fixed the rebooting problem then I'll look into the modem being defective next.

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2 years ago

I've had an open ticket with Motorola regarding this issue. According to the tech, Motorola/Comcast pushed out a "fixed" version of the firmware last week. I re-activated my MB8611 and did a factory reset, and my modem is now running 19.2.18 as well. I haven't had a reboot in the last 24 hours.

Is 19.2.18 a previous firmware? Why would a newer version be a lower number?

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Hello @IamMark. Thank you for letting us know the firmware that was pushed has resolved your connectivity issues. I'm unsure whether this is a previous version or a new one, but I am happy this seems to be the fix that was needed for this issue. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns we can assist you with in the future, by creating your own post, and we'd be happy to help.  

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2 years ago

Can also confirm. I lost DS lock (flashing blue DS light) last week and rebooted this morning. Modem would not lock DS or US and rebooted again on its own. After 2nd reboot, both DS & US finally locked. Logged in to modem and found it had downgraded to 19.2.18. I'm now able to ping the modem, which seemed to be disabled with the last firmware update.

Just a note, I've been running 21.3.7 without any issues on the MB8611. After the update on Jan. 02, the signals were better than it has ever been and performance was stable until I lost DS lock last week. I may be one of the luckier ones with the new firmware.

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@ieatsoop​ 

Mine was still rebooting with new firmware(or rolled back one). Bought an arris s33 so far no reboots. Looks like some of those are starting to have issues also. I think it depends where you live which modem works better. Motorla did ship a refurb unit(1st unit was only 40 days old) and it still had rebooting issues even on 19.2.18. Live in clinton township michigan. New modem and 2nd never made a full day on either modem being up. Longest i think i logged was like 18 hours. It was going on for over 2 months until i switched. It is something to do with comcast systems not playing good with motorolas and now some of the arris's. 

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@Razor001​ 

Good to hear that the Arris has been stable for you. I went through lots of problems sorting out my internet on my own. Support wasn't much help except to blame Motorola and rebooting the modem. I got Motorola to send me a new modem, but that was even flakier than the one I already owned so I sent it back. I would always lose DS locks a few days after a reboot but I just lived with it. Then we had a pretty big outage last December of about 2.5 days. When internet was restored, I noticed that the signals were better than before and I had a new firmware (21.3.7). It was very stable until last week so I was happy with the last firmware. I think Xfinity took the opportunity to do some maintenance that improved the signals while they were down. Anyway, I'll see how this rollback holds up.

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2 years ago

I have been reading this thread for a few weeks as my MB8611 I bought in October 2022 started randomly rebooting since mid-December. Although not as bad as others, I decided to RMA it with Motorola. I got the replacement today (Feb 7), activated it and it literally rebooted 10 times in 3 hours! It is like Internet freezes, all lights freeze on modem then hard restarts. I ended up pulling out my old Netgear CM600 and have been fine since reactivating that one. I'll let the MB8611 sit for a couple weeks and retry activating and see if things change. BTW, it came with firmware 19.2.18 and never upgrade or downgraded during any reboots that I could tell. No real story in event logs and all my specs are within range with zero uncorrected errors. 

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2 years ago

Like most people I've been having the issue with the MB8611 and have contacted both Xfinity and Motorola about it. At this moment I am using the Xfinity Gateway because I refuse to buy another $200 modem and I got Xfinity to cave on giving me $32 of credit to cover two months for the gateway. After being on the phone with Xfinity for 2 hours, the agent I spoke to stated that they have updated the service on their end and that any further issues stem from the modem. 

I'm currently holding Motorola hostage by refusing to send them the tracking number for the RMA return because they refuse to respond otherwise.

Email 1 - "The ISP is aware of the issue and is pushing firmware updates out regionally across their network to resolve the issue. The update should hopefully reach your region within a timely manner. That is all the information we have been provided by Comcast."

Email 2 - "The replacement unit is a tested 100% fully functional device. The update may have not reached your region yet as they are updating devices regionally so the local technicians may not be informed of the updates yet.  That is unfortunately completely out of Motorola's hands."

Email 3 - "the firmware on the unit has to match what is approved in your area. Even if we put the up to date firmware on the unit the ISP would just overwrite it automatically the moment it connects to their coaxial line. If the update has not reached your area then that would have occurred. At this moment there is nothing more that we are able to do for the issue. It is in Comcast's hands with how they update the devices and what regions get the updates first. We cannot be of any more assistance in that regard. "

Email 4 - "The update is not just firmware, I have mentioned the update several times but at no point did I state it was just a firmware change. The update is several things including changes on their networks back end. I cannot say anymore in regards to the changes they are making sir as it is outside of our ability to speak on.  The firmware itself is going to be 8611-19.2.18, however there is a chance that you have been put on that firmware and they just havent made whatever changes they need to make on the back end. I cannot say for certain as Comcast does not provide that level of information to outside sources. We as a company have done everything on our side that Comcast needed including providing data and working with them to get to a resolution. They are pushing out the fix as fast as they can. At this point all we can really ask is that you wait for them to provide the entire update to resolve the issue."

@Xfinity Support any response to the above emails from Motorola?

Edit: btw their gateway is trash. The wifi speeds are about 300 Mb/s slower and the range is far less than my own router.

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@user_db1346​ Just put their gateway in bridge mode. I have my own Ubiquiti router, switches, and APs here. Part of me thinks they are screwing with the customer owned devices so we're forced to rent from them. But I did get them to waive the rental fee for 24 months. After that if they want me to pay for it then I'll go back to my own modem. BUT they do include unlimited data with the gig plans and using their own modem. They were charging me $30/month for unlimited data and my own modem. I really hate that comcast is one of my only hardwired internet options. I also have TMobile 5G for a backup because comcast is so unreliable.

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@houseofbugs What magic words did you use to get them to waive it for 2 years?

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@user_db1346​ :"I have tmobile 5G internet here and I am going to cancel comcast"

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2 years ago

Same issue here. Been going on for months. 

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2 years ago

Also posted this on this thread: https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/mb8611-firmware/63886b8a39eb3658cfbb7083

I guess I am a bit late to the sad party, but I am having the same issues. I've been having these issues consistently for the last 6 months, maybe longer tbh, but I don't remember when they first started. 

Here is what I've done so far, but again, the problem still persists.

  1. Had Comcast run a new line from the pole into my house (to be fair the line was probably 10-15 years old)
  2. Had Comcast replacee a peice of hardware on the line, where my cable line plugged into
  3. RMAed my modem with Motorola and replaced it 2 weeks ago (took a little back and forth with them but not a long time)

Today, I spent 1.5 hours with the most technical Comcast Tech I've worked with so far and basically he found nothing. He checked pretty much everything, and showed me everything he was checking. We compared all that he was checking with my "Connection" info (from the Motorola Admin screen) and everything seemed great. 

I never thought to check the version number of the modem's software, but I am currently on 19.2.18 (I hard reset my modem today tho)

I hard reset my modem today, so unsure if this was the a different version before this and I don't know what version I was on with my older peice of hardware. Either way, this is really disappointing becuase Comcast should not recommend this hardware (obviously this is an issue) and Motorola should not sell it (or both Companies should ideally fix it, but that doesn't seem like it's going to happen). 

My next steps are to try another non-Motorola modem - either by renting or buying a new one and trying to return it before the 30 day mark (or sell the Motorola one online). 

If anyone has any questions, happy to answer. 

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Btw - was good for about 4 days, no issues. Version 19.2.18. 

Then yesterday -- 3 restarts that I noticed 

Today (3/22) -- 2 restarts so far

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Also from Motorola's support: 

"Firmware/Software has to be updated by the ISP as all cable modems and cable modem routers need to have firmware that is compatible with their network. They are the ones that must provide an update for the issue, we are assisting them but again they are in control of updates so we cannot provide a completion estimate."

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Thank you for taking the time to reach out to our community, @user_aee417. This is certainly not the experience that I want you or anyone else to have with your services, and we're here to help check on your Modem to make sure that it is up to date. Could you please send us a Direct Message with the steps below?

 

To send a Direct Message [private message]:

  • Click "Sign In" if necessary
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or  https://forums.xfinity.com/direct-messaging

  • Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon
  • The "To:" line prompts you to "Type the name of a person". Instead, type "Xfinity Support" there.
  • - As you are typing a drop-down list appears. Select "Xfinity Support" from that list.
  • - An "Xfinity Support" graphic replaces the "To:" line.
  • Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window
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I am also experiencing this problem. My modem ‘hiccups’ several times a day. I’ve had Comcast out, they checked my connections into the house and the line from the pole to my house and said all is fine. 

I did a modem hard reset 2 days ago  and it worked fine then started dropping again yesterday. This morning 3/27 it went out and my eero router wouldn’t reconnect until I unplugged it. 

I tried calling Motorola support a couple of weeks ago but was on hold for 1.25 hours before I was hung up on without speaking to anyone. 

I’m on firmware 8611-19.2.18


Not sure if I’ve been on the later versions but I will monitor it. 

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