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Tuesday, September 20th, 2022 4:03 AM

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Motorola MB8611 modem frequently loses connection to Xfinity/reboots

I have a Motorola MB8611 cable modem that I purchased from Best Buy in June 2022 to use with Xfinity's gigabit cable internet service. I've been encountering a problem where the modem seems to drop its connection to the WAN/Xfinity and reboots, causing my home network to lose Internet connectivity for 5-10 minutes. This problem occurs multiple times a day, sometimes as often as three or four times an hour.

I factory reset my modem in case it was an issue with buggy firmware or something, but that didn't seem to work.

I've looked around the forums and have seen that multiple other users have had similar issues with this model of modem, but I'm not sure if it's a problem on my end, with Xfinity's config for the modem, or with the network infrastructure in my house or neighborhood.

If anyone has any troubleshooting ideas or can escalate this to Xfinity's technical support staff, I'd really appreciate it - this issue has been driving my family nuts.

I was able to collect the following info from my modem:

Device Information:

 Cable Specification Version DOCSIS 3.1
   Hardware Version V1.0
   Software Version 8611-19.2.18
   Cable Modem MAC Address [redacted]
   Cable Modem Serial Number 2621-MB8611-30-3113
   CM Certificate Installed
    Prod_19.2_d31

Connection information:

Event Log:

Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted]0;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
22:49:52
Mon Sep 19 2022
Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
22:50:08
Mon Sep 19 2022
Notice (6) CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 37; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 0.;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

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14 Messages

2 years ago

Anybody know how to get some help from an actual person about this problem?  Lots of Motorola users having problems - Seems like there's quite a few posts with this problem in the Internet forum, but not a whole lot of response.  

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11 Messages

2 years ago

Im experiencing lots of random disconnects with my mb8611 modem too. Today its disconnected 7 times so far (red lines). I just expienced a disconnect a few minutes ago and when I logged back into the modem's web page, I now see that there is a Spectrum Analyzer area that was never there before. I know Comcast is the one that pushes new firmware to the modem, maybe this is why it has been disconnect so much lately?

My software version is

8611-19.2.20

EDIT: Spectrum Analyzer area is now no longer there? Weird. 

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8 Messages

2 years ago

Samesies over here. Endless rabbit holes to go down and when it is solved in a thread here it's gone "offline" to PM's between Xfinity and the customer with no resolution to the community ever given. If you're reading this I'm guessing you've seen a lot of then too.

I'm not trying to flex, but I have a degree in Computer Science/Electrical Engineering, I poured through hundreds of pages of documentation and tests and results and solves - and the bottom line is that I still don't have an answer. My connection numbers are all in line with both Xfinity's specs and Motorola's specs. New issue since I went to the MB8611 - flops out a solid 20 times a day. Exact log string as everyone else. I guess I'll replace my own cable from the side of the house to my modem (nothing else in between or after) and then have to schedule a tech to replace it to the curb. Frustrating. If there was another provider available where I live, I would switch. Why am I not surprised by any of this? 

The best part? I also have Xfinity mobile (not complaining, wicked deal) - and I'm being charged for data overages on my mobile account when I have to hotspot to be online to work. So xfinity broadband dies, I use xfinity mobile data because I have to earn, and then I get charged extra for the privilege of having redundancy from the SAME COMPANY. I get it, they use Verizon and have to pay. Whatever. 

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Hi, @therearealotofus. I'll be glad to provide any further assistance you may need from our end. I understand you are more than knowledgeable in this area, and I see you want to try a few things yourself. 

 

I ask that you reach out privately, so we can help troubleshoot as well when you have time. You can start by clicking the chat icon located in the top right corner on your forums page when signed in. Once there, you can search for "Xfinity Support" to compose your direct message. Please add your full name and service address to help us locate your account. Let me know if you have any questions.

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11 Messages

2 years ago

Yep I dont recall my dropouts being this consistent with my old Arris modem. However it did seem to get worse after we moved into our new house last year. I asked about my issue on the r/comcast subreddit and a commenter responded that they experience the same issues with this modem and swapping over to the XB8 modem from Comcast fixed their issue (surprise surprise).

Comcast came out a few months ago and replaced the coax line from the pole to the house (landscapers cut the old line) so I have new coax to the demar box. From there I have one rg6 coax line ran into my basement and right into the modem. No splitters or any other coax in the mix. 

I will be calling Comcast this week and see what they say. I really dont want to buy another $200 modem (Arris S33) and hope that the problem goes away. I would maybe consider the Comcast modem if they ever roll out the 100mbps upload speeds around me.

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Hello @user_2edda3. I appreciate you reaching out to us. I'm sorry to hear about the issues you have been experiencing in your new home. We would be happy to look into this for you. 

Could you please send our team a direct message with your full name and full address?
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948 Messages

2 years ago

@therearealotofus  I have Xfinity mobile, if you use a Xfinity hotspot, the data should free, it’s how you have it setup, plus at home if you use a computer, I have connected to 3 or 4 Xfinity hotspots simultaneously for some nice redundancy, I can pull the plug on my gateway and not miss a beat, lower speeds tho…

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@Jlavaseur​ I used my own hotspot that I created on my phone. Not an open xFinity hotspot. The only xFinity hotspot that doesn't drop out at least once an hour around me is the one I create using my own device (which of course is on the Verizon network, as xFinity doesn't actually own their own). I do not have an unlimited plan. So I get charged for data.

Point of reference - I live in Superior, Colorado, the epicenter of a devastating wildfire that most of you probably saw on the news that ripped through our region a year ago this week destroying over 1,000 homes in my neighborhood. Our home made it because we were lucky enough to live close to my minions' elementary school that the hard working men and women first responders saved during 85 mph+ wind gusts. 

When the National Guard patrolling our streets 24x7 allowed us to get back to our home about a week after the fire, there was little infrastructure up let alone xFinity internet. So I used my own xFinity mobile device to create a hotspot for us to try to work, learn from home after winter break as schools were closed, and keep in touch with authorities and family and friends. This caused a huge overage which I never even thought about until I got the bill. Kind of more important things to think of at that point.

I think after multiple calls and chats and pm's they may have given me like $20 credit on one of my bills before I gave up. It's a lot of fun talking to two different divisions at the same company who don't talk to each other and blame the other department for the problem and have little to no regard for the circumstances in which their customers might be in. Like I said, if I had another choice of providers I would take it.

Appreciate the mansplaining though - good times.

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2 years ago

I am a little confused about whether you actually can connect to hotspots or not, my point was if you can connect to more then one hotspot simultaneously, they would be on different gateways, I would imagine them not going down at the same time, maybe some redundancy..

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@Jlavaseur​ Ah, was about to hit send and figured out what you were saying. I could do that on my individual device I guess - but that hack wouldn't work on any other device, and it would include multiple adapters, setup headaches, and actively using my own data limited 5G connection hotspot either directly or via one of my travel WISP routers. 

Let me know what I'm missing as I think I'm not understanding where you're headed with your thinking - but I am intrigued.

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2 years ago

@therearealotofus  So this my thinking, I am assuming possibly you have xfinity mobile? So if you want to use your phone as a hotspot, I would connect via Wi-Fi, again assuming you have a router connected to your mb8611, use that as a source instead of your mobile data, if your phone is setup correctly, when your mb8611 drops it should automatically connect to the hotspot, again using no mobile data, there should be a secure Xfinity hotspot along with the open one, if those fail you mobile data should kick in, maybe I don’t understand, here is a fact about the hotspots, my phone is setup so when I am driving about etc it will automatically connect to a available hotspot in range, so I was looking and the hotspots all had the exact same ip address, likewise with the routers ip address, I checked within a 5 mile radius from house, it kind of reminded of my IRC days when we would use a round robin type dns, sometimes from a home computer using a dialup 56k modem, anyway I have to go into my house, since you expertly knew about the adapters, i will add more in a bit

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2 years ago

I've had the the mb8611 modem for 1 year now. Everyday it disconnects 3 to 9 times for 2 to 4 minutes at a time.  I've had xfinity technicians come 4+ times and they have no idea how to fix it.  Pretty awkward as the technician that came out yesterday was here a few months back.  No improvement whatsoever.  The only idea they give is to try renting the xfinity modem.  It seems to me that xfinity is slowing the motorola modems in order to force customers to buy more equipment from them, which is ridiculous considering the mb8611 modem is on their list of approved modems. 

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@user_5fd3c8​ 

I just called and spoke to Motorola customer support and the lady (Jillian, super friendly btw!) told me that they are well aware of the firmware issue on some mb8611 modems and asked if I had Xfinity service. They are shipping me a new modem and I have to return the old one within 30 days. She said the new modem should not be affected by the firmware issue.

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11 Messages

2 years ago

I've switched to WOW over the past weekend (no more data caps!) and my mb8611 is doing the same thing as it did when connected to Xfinity. There is 100% and issue with this modem and it's not totally Xfinity's fault.

Im switching over to WOW's free rental gateway so hopefully I'll never have to mess with this pos modem again.

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2 years ago

Same issue here, I had someone come out but they were very adamant about me taking it up with motorola, when they told me its an issue with xfinity firmware.

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2 years ago

I'm having the exact same issue. Started about a month ago. Connection would drop multiple times a day and my MB8611 modem reboots. I do think Xfinity is doing something this modem doesn't like. I've contacted Motorola support, but they haven't been able to help. I'm going to mention this forum post.

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Thank you for reaching out to us. We are happy to help each of you. Please feel free to send us a Direct Message with your full name and complete address. Here is how you can reach us:

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2 years ago

I have the same exact issue and I think I know where the issue is but have no way to verify it yet.  I had this modem since Oct 2022 without any problems.  Recently Comcast decided I needed faster speeds to my address.  After they upgraded the cables on the poles and who knows what else, I am getting drops many times a day.  Seems to always coincide with the DS profile Assignment.

I swapped with my old Arris Modem that Comcast said was the problem with slowness.  Wow, no more drops.  Now the Arris modem is only Dociss 3.0 and not 3.1.  I suspect that the file Comcast is downloading to my Motorola cable modem is either bad or misconfigured.  Motorola can't help because Comcast wants you to rent their modem and refuses to work with Motorola (my theory after working in tech for many years).  

I don't know what a DS profile assignment is, but maybe it is Comcast pushing a config file down over and over and that update requires a reboot of the modem each time.  Maybe the two companies can get together and fix this instead of the poor customer service that Comcast is known for.  The techs that were sent out were really good and very helpful.  I am looking at engineering and management that don't want to get involved and can't be contacted by customers.

The next thing I will try is going back to the Motorola and see if reregistering it updates the file correctly and the problem goes away.

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@user_d26d54​ After months of perfect performance from the 8611 I started getting the drop-outs in December.  There are multiple posts about this issue.  It seems 1-2 posters have been able to resolve with replacement 8611's , but for most, even replacements did not work.  These dropouts were impacting my livelihood, so finally got the Arris S33. No issues after multiple days with the S33 and a clean event log.

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@sigs​ I am guessing they upgraded the outside service for faster internet?

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Hi there, @user_d26d54. Thank you for letting us know that the internet has been dropping. We always want a strong and consistent connection. I have some questions to best help. What troubleshooting steps have you taken so far? Have you had a Technician out to look further into this issue? 

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9 Messages

2 years ago

I started my own thread for my long and particular experience before getting to the second page of posts (somehow missed that).

‎Motorola MB8611 modem frequently loses connection to Xfinity/reboots (yeah same here) | Xfinity Community Forum

So Motorola is sending me a replacement despite the indication of line troubles (per Motorola rep).

If Xfinity is pushing bad firmware, then maybe the replacement works for a time until Xfinity pushes faulty firmware again.?

The cost of renting modem just doesn't add up for me. Had a nice long relatively problem free history Xfinity using personal equipment until deciding upgrade my speed.

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13 Messages

2 years ago

Hi,

So like nearly everyone with the MB8611 modem and the 21.3.7 firmware, I've been having reboots also. Usually at least once to multiple times per day.

I know the usual advice is don't connect a cable modem line to a powered or amplified splitter but I decided to give that a try. Since I did that, I haven't gone down once and it's been over 5 days. My upstream power dropped from the 49-50 range down to 45-46 in the process.

I'm not saying this is the fix for everyone. My guess is the firmware changed something that made the modem more sensitive to variances in the signal coming through.

The amplifier I'm using is this guy: https://a.co/d/2CcYCFO

Connected to one of the amplified ports, not the passive one.

In any event, hopefully this will get fixed properly.

Thanks

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8 Messages

2 years ago

I finally figured it out. Just go buy an S 33. If you’re this deep in the thread of this crazy problem, you have already learned as I have, way too much about things that really don’t matter. and probably [Edit: Language] your children your dog, your partner or pretty much anyone else you talk to you.

All of us already own a piece of equipment that feels like it cost a lot, and it’s a buy and forget for 2 years situation we’re looking for. 

Write it off. If buying a new S 33 is going to financially impact your life straight up get the X one router or whatever it is that Xfinity a charge us  nine bucks a month for for the rest of our life. Or just go buy an s33.


Since I installed it, I have not had a single outage. I didn’t do any extensive cabling work because that’s crazy. I look at the S 33’s logs, and the connection time out that T3 still shows up from time to time. However, it is infrequent, and it does not force the modem to reboot. You don’t even notice it.

 Just do it and your life is gonna be so much easier because the alternative going down the rabbit hole further ends up with the cable dude tearing up your neighbor’s landscaping or sidewalk (if you don’t like you’re neighbor I guess that’s not a con) to not fix your problem.

Good luck to all of you. I hopefully will never have to think about multi channel relative power again.  Vaya con díos all. 

jc 

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@therearealotofus​ apologies for the horrific grammar and punctuation and sentence structure and obvs I meant *your. I’m so giddy to be done with this chapter of my desire to drop 1 gbps speed in every nook and cranny of my life, I had several and dictated to my phone. That’s a whole other thread.

WiFi 6e receivers, you’re next my friends. You are now my remaining 1.2g roadblock. Well, that and the rest of the internet which is slow af. 

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@therearealotofus​ What is the S 33? Arris Surfboard I think.....

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8 Messages

@tomgarz​ Yup - you got it.

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