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Tuesday, January 9th, 2024 11:05 PM

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Experiencing SYNC Timing Synchronization Failure

Recently connected a new Motorola MG 7550 router /modem. We've been experiencing periodic disconnections lasting from less than a minute to several minutes. Logs show the following.... 

Time   Priority   Description 
 Time Not Established   Critical (3)   No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Sun Jan 07 17:08:41 2024    Critical (3)   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing;CM-MAC=xxxxxxxCM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Sun Jan 07 17:08:45 2024    Critical (3)   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxxxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Sun Jan 07 17:08:48 2024    Critical (3)   SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing;CM-MAC=xxxxxxxxxxCM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Sun Jan 07 17:53:24 2024    Critical (3)   Resetting the cable modem due to docsDevResetNow 
 Time Not Established   Critical (3)   No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Time Not Established   Notice (6)   Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 
 Mon Jan 08 03:14:22 2024    Critical (3)   Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; 

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1 year ago

I thought everyone would like to know that this problem has been resolved 100%!

It's tough when there's more than one issue, but we seem to have cured three separate things that were interfering with our connection.

First was poor connections, which the xfinity tech was able to resolve by replacing the connectors in the coax. Helped a little, but stuff still causing disconnects. We then ran WiFi Analyzer which showed we were sharing a channel with a bunch of other routers that weren't broadcasting SSIDs.  Changing the channels helped a lot, but still not great. Next, on the advice of a couple of folks(thanks EG) I installed a Forward Path Attenuator which reduced the downstream from around 11 db to around 4.5 dbm. This darn near did the trick but we were still getting random disconnects! Much better, but still not great. Finally, on the advice of a tech from Motorola, we tried going to a Factory Reset and redo everything from scratch. BINGO! That was the final trick. Somehow the reset got rid of the last tiny remnants of the problems. It's now working great and I consider the problems solved!

Thanks to everyone who chimed in and tried to help.

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Thanks for the update. Glad you got it squared away ! Marked "Solved" thread now being closed.

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1 year ago

@user_vm6n9v Thank you for taking the time to make this post and letting us know of the interruptions you are seeing with your connection. We definitely want to ensure this is addressed and your service is working as you need! I'd like to ask a few questions to help us narrow down what is going on.

 
- Have you done any troubleshooting on your end like restarting the modem manually (removing the power cable) or via the Xfinity app? Our Xfinity Internet and WiFi Connection Troubleshooting article has some steps that may help!
- Have you checked the cables going into the modem and wall outlet to ensure there are no visible damages and everything is secured finger tight? 
- What device(s) are impacted when you loose connection?
- Does your signal improve or change when using an ethernet connect vs. WiFi?
- Did you experience any connection drops with your previous modem?

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1 year ago

Thanks for reaching out to us! We've done all the trouble shooting you mentioned and more. Based on researching symptoms in the log files and also the problems with the prior modem, we've scheduled a visit from an xfinity tech for later today. If the problem is resolved, I will be sure to post a follow up here. 

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Sounds like a plan. @user_vm6n9v We will be standing by ready to assist. 

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1 year ago

Update: tech checked the setup, and traced coax back to the pole. Replaced all connectors (3) with new. Rechecked and pronounced all as "Excellent". We're now hoping that all is now fixed. We should know by tomorrow if the disconnects are cured. 

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Awesome! I am confident our technician got this resolved, but I will follow up with you tomorrow just to make sure, how does that sound? 

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Hello! I just wanted to check in and see how your services were treating you today! 

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Unfortunately, I can't say that our problem has been resolved. I must say that it is improved. Probably 50% better? We are still getting disconnects same as before, and replacing the connectors on our coax cable has undoubtedly improved the situation. We are at least going in the right direction, but more needs to be done somehow. We're still getting disconnects, just not as often. I am waiting for the modem app to update the log files. If anyone has any knowledge of the app I'd be interested to know how to force it to update the logs. 

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@user_vm6n9v Hello, I am happy to be of assistance. Can you please send us a DM. You can start by clicking the chat icon located in the top right corner of your forums' page when signed in. Once there, you can direct your messages to "Xfinity Support." Please add your full name and service address to help us locate your account. Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Thanks, we will send a dm tomorrow.

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1 year ago

What do the modem's signal stats look like ?

Please copy all of the text in its entirety of the *Downstream Power Levels*, the *SNR's* (Signal to Noise Ratios), and the *Upstream Power Level* numbers and paste them into your next post.

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Thanks for your help. I will try to get that info if I can find it. If I can I will post it tomorrow.

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Hey there, @user_vm6n9v I wanted to reach back out to you to see how your services were working for you and if now would be a good time to continue with troubleshooting. We are here to help if you would like to reach out through Direct Message. 

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1 year ago

@user_vm6n9v 

Please post the info that I requested right here in your topic on these public help forums. Thank you. 

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1 year ago

UPDATE!

It's truly been a long and frustrating grind, but I believe that we have solved the issue! I loaded an app called wifi analizer by olgorDOTcom and was blown away by the sheer number of neighbors who were competing for wifi channels not broadcasting SSIDs. So now I have simply changed from auto to lesser used channels and BINGO problem solved. If you need to try this, make sure to get the version by olgorDOTcom as there's a bunch of them listed on the Play Store.

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1 year ago

FWIW. WiFi impairments can not cause those modem RF error log entries (SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing;). Those come from an impairment of the connection between the modem and the Comcast plant / system. If the problem returns, the cause of these may still need to be addressed. You should post those requested signal values for the halibut.

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Sorry for the late reply, but I have not been able to get the device to show any logs since I copied the ones posted here. So I have no idea what it might show that is still occurring since my last post. If I can somehow get some logs I'll post them, as the problems are nearly gone gut we still get random resets.

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Spoke too soon. This is the current log in the app...

 
  
 Time   Priority   Description 
 Wed Jan 31 14:40:41 2024    Critical (3)   Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[Edited: "Personal Information"];CMTS-MAC=[Edited: "Personal Information"];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Time Not Established   Critical (3)   No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[Edited: "Personal Information"];CMTS-MAC=[Edited: "Personal Information"];CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0; 
 Time Not Established   Notice (6)   Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 
     

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I hope this helps...

Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 29 591.0 10.9 40.5 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 30 597.0 11.1 40.9 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 31 603.0 10.9 40.5 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 32 609.0 10.9 40.7 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 33 615.0 11.0 40.7 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 34 621.0 10.9 40.7 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 35 627.0 10.7 40.4 0 0
8 Locked QAM256 36 633.0 10.8 40.4 0 0
9 Locked QAM256 37 639.0 10.8 40.3 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 38 645.0 10.7 40.4 0 0
11 Locked QAM256 39 651.0 10.6 40.4 0 0
12 Locked QAM256 40 657.0 10.5 40.3 0 0
13 Locked QAM256 41 663.0 10.5 40.3 0 0
14 Locked QAM256 42 669.0 10.4 40.3 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 43 675.0 10.6 40.0 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 44 681.0 10.4 40.3 0 0
Total             0 0


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 16.4 44.4
2 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 22.8 45.0
3 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 29.2 44.5
4 Locked ATDMA 5 5120 35.6 44.9

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@user_vm6n9v Can I ask that you reach out privately, so we can cover the details of your account. You can start by clicking the chat icon located in the top right corner of your forums page when signed in. Once there, you can direct your messages to "Xfinity Support." Please add your full name and service address to help us locate your account. Let me know if you have any questions.

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1 year ago

@user_vm6n9v 

The downstream power is high. It may be over-driving the front-end receiver circuit of the modem. That can cause random disconnects, spontaneous re-booting of the modem, speed, packet loss, latency problems, and the un-bonding of channels.


Is there a drop amplifier on the coax cable line leading to the modem ? If so, try removing / bypassing it and see. If not, you can try installing a -6 dB forward path-only attenuator pad such as this one on the coax port on the rear of the modem to knock that power level down and see;


https://www.amazon.com/FPA6-54-Forward-Attenuator-DOCSIS-Internet/dp/B08KTRC3XZ 

It won't affect the upstream power level which is within spec. Good luck !

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