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Wednesday, August 30th, 2023 4:37 AM

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Upload speed upgrade with Arris SurfBoard S33

Hi,

My Xfinity account says my service is eligible for 100Mbps upload speed.  I am having my own Arris SurfBoard S33 cable modem, which is also listed as a compatible device on Xfinity page.  But I am only getting 20Mbps upload speed.  Rebooting the modem didn't help, either.  How can I enable the faster upload speed with my own compatible S33 modem?  Thank you for the help.

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Concern moved here to the Customer Service help section for greater exposure to Comcast corporate employees (The Digital Care Team) for assistance.

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Hi, I've got the same question. 

My Xfinity account says my service is eligible for 100Mbps upload speed. 

I'm using Arris S33 and I'm only getting 10Mpbs upload speed. 

I would like to know how I can enable the faster upload speed with my own S33 modem. 

Thank you. 

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Hi there and welcome to Comcast @seanzxx. Thank you so much for reaching out to us today about your concerns to our higher upload speeds. At this time the higher upload speeds are not available with customer own modem. 

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Thanks, @XfinityRoberto!

Will higher upload speeds be available with customer own modem in future.   Do you have the ETA?

I find Arris S33 is in the list of certified devices which support higher upstream speeds. 

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/upgraded-areas-leased-equipment-required-for-upload-speeds

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Great question. Unfortunately, We do not have an ETA as to when the new speed will be available for customer owned modems.

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@XfinityAirelle​ Is this a regional thing.  Support over at reddit said that my account would be able to use a MB8611 or an Arris S33 and get the 100mb upload.

Here is the conversation I had with them today: https://imgur.com/a/eoxBiLZ

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1 year ago

I have the exact same issue.....it turns out to be an Xfinity thing??  SO FRUSTRATING!!!  Wasted countless hours!!

My service was upgraded to  800 down/100up and was told my old router/modem was the issue for the lack of speed by the Xfinity Tech Team, purchased an Arris S33 and still didn't work.  To late to send it back!   Thought it was my Orbi RA50 mesh Wifi system...finally went to Xfinity Store and rented a Xfinity router/wifi to test.   It worked!   

What a waste of time and no one on Tech Team (chat and over the phone) knew that you couldn't get 100 upload with personal device! 

Any ETA to FIX?   I'm in SF Bay Area 

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@Dave-xyz​ I have my own modem (CODA56) and I get 100mbps upload.  Check the Comcast supported device page.  The rest is market dependent.  Good luck!

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The requirement to XFi Complete to get 200mbps on customer owned modems was lifted!  Rebooted and now have 200+mbps upload.  

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@Flyinace2000​ which modem do you have? 


I also have the S33 and after reboot still getting ~20mbps.

Edit:

just saw your comment 2 above, nevermind.  Wonder if s33 is lagging for the firmware update from Comcast.

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I’ve got the same issue, though I routinely get 40mbps up. Have the S33 and a UniFi Dream Machine SE, which enables me to get the 1.2mbps down but have yet to see the 200mbps up I’m paying for. 

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Hello, @lee52. Thank you for reaching out over Xfinity Forums for support, you have contacted the right place for assistance in regard to your upload speed concern. Working from home myself, I rely on my higher upload speed to perform work optimally. 

 

I would definitely like to investigate the upload speeds further, as the S33 is showing compatible up to our Gigabit extra speed tier. Since I will need to gather some information to locate your account, please send a direct message. 

 

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1 year ago

Wondering about this too.  I have the 1g/100m plan.  What's up with the S33 only getting 23mbps?  The modem is capable of much higher upload.  What is the issue here?  I keep getting emails telling me to upgrade my model to Hiltron or Netgear.  Is the Arris S33 going to be supported?

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Thank you for reaching out to us here @user_f1s43l. If you visit the https://www.xfinity.com/support/devices site you can see all of the supported device. Make sure to choose the all compatible devices including next generation speeds on the bottom right. 

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I have an Arris S33 and my upload is around 20Mbps even though I'm supposed to "up to 100Mbps".  I did a chat with Xfinity and was advised to contact the OEM for updated software.  Has anyone gotten Arris to supply updated software?  From what I've read it's Comcast/Xfinity that would need to update the SW and/or config file.

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1 year ago

I am having the same problem. The upload power level is too low. Xfinity told me to call Arris. Arris said the signal is too low and to ask Xfinity to increase it. When I talked to customer support for three hours I got no where. I became frustrated and got off the call. I wish I could talk to someone at Xfinity that understands and can help me. 

My signal levels. 43dBmVis to low. 

Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
1 Locked SC-QAM 16400000 Hz 6400000 43.5 dBmV
2 Locked SC-QAM 22800000 Hz 6400000 43.3 dBmV
3 Locked SC-QAM 29200000 Hz 6400000 42.8 dBmV
4 Locked SC-QAM 35600000 Hz 6400000 42.0 dBmV

Acceptable Signal Levels
 

Acceptable Downstream Power Level
-15 dBmV to +15 dBmV
Downstream Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR)
Modulation Downstream Power Acceptable Downstream SNR
64 QAM n/a 23.5 dB or greater
256 QAM -6 dBmV to +15 dBmV 30 dB or greater
-15 dBmV to -6 dBmV 33 dB or greater
Upstream Transmit Power Level
Channel US Channel Type Acceptable Upstream Power Levels
Single (1) SC-QAM 45 dBmV to 61 dBmV
Two (2) SC-QAM 45 dBmV to 54 dBmV
Three or more (>=3) SC-QAM 45 dBmV to 51 dBmV

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My upstream is 54 to 55 dbmv for all 4 channels. Should be plenty of power.  Still stuck on 23mpbs.

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Hello @user_qu326b, thank you for posting those signal levels and the relevant info 🙌! I can definitely help make sure you get the support you need, and I'll stick with you until we get this figured out. I want to make sure we're on the same page and work on the best resolution for you. Are you in a Next Gen speed area and not receiving the upgraded upload speeds? Or are you just getting slow upload speeds for your speed tier? 

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@XfinityMarcos​ I am in the Huntsville, Alabama market. I have a Arris S33 modem. My plan is Download speed: up to 1000 Mbps, Upload speed: up to 100 Mbps. 

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Thanks for letting us know. We can take a closer look into this and see what is going on. 

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Thank you for the direct message. To get started, may I have your full name and full service address?

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1 year ago

@owlhuang @XfinityMarcos 

Would you please share with the community at large what the solution was ? Thank you !

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There is no solution yet.  I am still stuck with 20Mbps upload till Comcast supports S33.

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owlhuang go ahead and send us a direct message, so we can take a closer look at your address. We want to confirm your location is Next Gen eligible. You can use the Direct Messaging icon at the top of the page to send your name and service address to "Xfinity Support." It's next to the bell icon on the right side of the page. 

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1 year ago

Having same issue. Comcast keep sending me marketing email asking me to buy a new DOSCIS 3.1 modem while my current S33 is already on 3.1. Yet I'm only getting 10Mbps upload speed.

Checked signal level for the modem and it's in spec:

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
1 Locked SC-QAM 16400000 Hz 6400000 45.5 dBmV
2 Locked SC-QAM 22800000 Hz 6400000 45.5 dBmV
3 Locked SC-QAM 29200000 Hz 6400000 45.8 dBmV
4 Locked SC-QAM 35600000 Hz 6400000 46.0 dBmV


If comcast cannot fix the upload speed, at least stop sending the useless email.

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Hey there @user_o2nkhv, I'm jealous of those new upload speeds, I can't wait until my area gets the upgrade. I can appreicate wanting to see them on your end, so I'd love a chance to work with you on these upload speeds. Using your own modem is also a really great way to save money, and I'm glad Xfinity gives that option to our customers, but only a select few modems are compatible with our upgraded speeds. The S33 isn't currenlty a device that is compatible, are you able to review the Compatible Device list and select the PDF link for compatible modems with our Next Gen speeds? 

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Thanks for adding context. I did look into the compatible device list:

https://assets.xfinity.com/assets/dotcom/projects/cix-4997_compatible-devices/2023.11.22%20Full%20List%20of%20Compatible%20Devices.pdf

What's not clear to me is that the `Wired Upload Speed` is not listed for `Recommended Devices` section table.

| Model Number                  | Built-in WiFi | Voice Telephone enabled | DOCSIS    | Wired Download Speed |
|-------------------------------|---------------|--------------------------|-----------|-----------------------|
| ARRIS / Surfboard S33 (Recommended) | No            | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 2.33 Gbps       |

and what you mentioned as nextgen has the upload speed column:

| Next Gen Speed Tier | Model Number               | Built-in WiFi | Voice Telephone enabled | DOCSIS    | Wired Download Speed | Wired Upload Speed   |
|----------------------|----------------------------|---------------|--------------------------|-----------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
| Hitron Technologies   | CODA                       | No            | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 934 Mbps        | Up to 456 Mbps        |
| Hitron Technologies   | CODA56                     | No            | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 2.33 Gbps       | Up to 455 Mbps        |
| Netgear              | CM3000                     | No            | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 2.33 Gbps       | Up to 486 Mbps        |
| Netgear              | CBR750                     | Yes           | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 924 Mbps        | Up to 471 Mbps        |
| ARRIS / Surfboard     | G54                        | Yes           | No                       | DOCSIS 3.1 | Up to 2.34 Gbps       | Up to 474 Mbps        |

Since on hardware specs the G54 and S33 are both on DOCSIS3.1 and have identical channel#, I don't really see a difference from end user perspective.

It'd be cool if comcast can update this device list and explicitly adding a column to recommended devices that even hardware can support higher upload speed, it's not achievable on comcast for now. that may clarify the issue a lot.

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See on ARRIS official website:

https://www.surfboard.com/products/wi-fi-cable-modems/g54/

32 downstream x 8 upstream DOCSIS 3.0 channels or 2 downstream x 2 upstream OFDM DOCSIS 3.1 channels

https://www.surfboard.com/products/cable-modems/s33/

32 downstream x 8 upstream DOCSIS 3.0 bonded channels 2 downstream x 2 upstream OFDM DOCSIS 3.1 channels

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@user_o2nkhv, We're taking every step to ensure that customer owned modems will be fully capable to bring our Next Gen speeds to homes. The specific device does need to be listed as compatible regardless of the shared specs or abilities. I don't have a way to add your modem or make it compatible with the speeds. We are working to add more devices to the compatible list, so it's possible your modem is compatible in the future. Other than your Next Gen upload concern, did you have any other speed issues? 

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nah thanks for confirming the issue. appreciate the positive forward looking attitude. 

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1 year ago

Hi there

I am also having the same problem (San Francisco, 94114). I bought an Arris S33 Docsis 3.1 modem which I started using in December. I received an email from Xfinity today to say that I had been upgraded to Next Generation Internet but still only have 24Mbps upload speed despite restarts. This is frustrating as I checked the Xfinity compatible list before I bought it to make sure it is on there. 

My upload power is showing as 41.5dBmV - see below.

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
1 Locked SC-QAM 16400000 Hz 6400000 41.0 dBmV
2 Locked SC-QAM 22800000 Hz 6400000 41.5 dBmV
3 Locked SC-QAM 29200000 Hz 6400000 41.5 dBmV
4 Locked SC-QAM 35600000 Hz 6400000 41.5 dBmV


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Good evening @user_04etmj. We can check on our end to see if we can identify any issues that are preventing you from receiving the upload speeds. Please send our team a direct message with your full name and full address and we can get started.

 

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1 year ago

I was just on xfinity website and the Arris S33 is supported for nextgen.  Only getting 12 mbps upload here too.  Live in Massachusetts.  Xfinity was making changes in this area all summer to support nextgen.   And I also get the emails I need to get new equipment.

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Hi, @user_4tbvzx. Thank you for reaching out on this post. Currently, the Arris S33 is not on the list of compatible devices to acquire the next-gen speeds. This link https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast_Xfinity/wiki/knowledgebase/next-generation-internet/ covers all the updates we have so far. There you'll find a list of approved customer-owned devices. They include HitronTechnologies CODA, HitronTechnologies CODA56 , Netgear CM3000*, Netgear CBR750, CommScope G54. This list may grow as we add more devices. You can find a full list here as well. 

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If the S33 is not a compatible device then why is it listed as THE recommended device???

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The Arris S33 is recommended for the standard tier that will enable you to meet the requirements for your base plan. However, it's not listed for the Next Gen speed tier/speeds you wish to achieve. As you can see here https://assets.xfinity.com/assets/dotcom/projects/cix-4997_compatible-devices/2023.11.22%20Full%20List%20of%20Compatible%20Devices.pdf there are two sets listed. The devices are under the title "Next Gen Speed Tier" which is what you'll need for the faster upload speeds. @mao219 

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11 months ago

I'm also eagerly awaiting the S33 being supported for the next-gen speeds. Just had a tech out to my house and he confirmed that the network in my area is updated and his test equipment easily pulled 240+ up. Only waiting for Xfinity to certify the device. Given that this probably shares mostly the same modem hardware as the G54 (just no wifi) I'd think this wouldn't be too much of an ask? Thank you!

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11 months ago

I'm following this thread closely because I tried to swap to an Arris S33 yesterday and I was unaware that the upload speeds would be so poor.  Not really sure how a device can be "recommended" for my service when it has not been certified to deliver on the speeds I pay for.  I can understand variations in speeds because it is different equipment, but when my uploads go from 220Mbps+ to 5Mbps, that's an issue.  A service call was going to be setup, but since my Gateway gets the correct speeds and my new modem doesn't, I felt that there was no way that I wouldn't get charged for them coming out.  The customer service rep was able to reenable my Gateway and restore my speeds.  Looking forward to the day when this is resolved, and I can switch back to the Arris S33.  As a long time Comcast subscriber, I'm sure I've paid for a few of these gateways already with my $15 a month rental fees.

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11 months ago

I have an Arris S33 and my upload is around 20Mbps even though I'm supposed to "up to 100Mbps".  I did a chat with Xfinity and was advised to contact the OEM for updated software.  Has anyone gotten Arris to supply updated software?  From what I've read it's Comcast/Xfinity that would need to update the SW and/or config file.

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@mao219​ that has to come from Xfinity.  Wishing they would just do it already….

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Hello @user_tv8la9 and @mao219 ! We are in the process of rolling out our new upload speeds across the country as well as certifying devices to be able to use them. The Arris S33 is not currently certified. I don't have any news on if/when it will be, but we appreciate all the feedback!

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We the consumers spent money because the product has XFINITY tm on it.

But XFINITY hasnt certified it?

Then XFINITY should not allow the trademark to be used by ARRIS if it has technical issues of "Certifying" 

But we as consumers purchased the S33(200.00usd)

We as consumers Rent your Gateway. (monthly fees of over 900 from me)

We as consumers spent hour(s) on the phone with XFINITY. That by the way as of 3/16/24 was clueless on why its getting 5mb upload speeds.

May i ask what is the "Certification" process consists of? 

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@ToastedBeaver My team can help you troubleshoot if you're having issues with your upload speeds. To send a direct message, please click on the chat icon in the top-right corner of the screen, and select "Xfinity Support" to initiate a Direct Message. 
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