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Sunday, April 23rd, 2023 10:46 PM

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Xfinity Internet Service Degraded, Unstable After "Network Enhancements In My Area" On March 30th

SUMMARY OF ISSUE:

(1) I had stable, error-free cable internet service until a recent "neighborhood upgrade" on March 30", when the "upgrade" work caused service to be out for a whole day.

(2) Now, our service logs tens of thousands of uncorrected errors per day across sixteen downstream channels, and is not stable, typically disconnecting several times in each 24 hour period.

(3) Neither our equipment or the single run of cable from the Xfinity demarcation point outside our home to the cable modem has been altered in any way from its formerly working (before "neighborhood upgrade") configuration to the current degraded, unstable configuration.

Given these facts, Xfinity's changes to their system during the "neighborhood upgrade" are very strongly implicated in the problems which I am now requesting they remedy. To convince Xfinity that there is a problem with their system and not mine, I have gathered and report here detailed evidence.



BACKGROUND:

I did not have any cable-based service at this property since I bought it decades ago, but in the last few years have needed additional bandwidth due to increased telework/telecommuting opportunities, as well as a virtually mandatory shift to streaming video services. So I reluctantly switched from my 100% reliable (but slow) DSL internet connection to "Xfinity" cable-based service a few years ago, at which time the company installed a new cable drop (since storms had long ago taken down the old one the previous owners used).

From the start my Xfinity internet service worked well, and was stable for months of up-time without interruption. I never had cable television service, so there are no complications to my internal connection:  a single cable runs from the Xfinity connection point at the side of my home directly to a wall plate, connected to a Motorola MB-7420 cable modem.

There are no intervening splitters and/or additional cable runs or amplifiers, and none of my equipment or connections have been altered since the system was stable, (before the Xfinity upgrade work).

A note regarding my background is perhaps relevant: I have degrees in electrical engineering and computer science, and work as a consultant in the field of embedded systems, writing firmware for networking equipment and Ethernet switch gear.

So my complaint here comes from a fairly complete understanding of the basic operation of cable internet systems, having nothing to do with my internal network architecture, routers, switches, WiFi access points and WiFi signal conditions in my home, or anything else that lies beyond Xfinity's system and control.

It only regards Xfinity's responsibility to provide a stable, continuous connection at the cable modem itself.

As I did not change or alter the single cable that runs from Xfinity's feed to my cable modem, and the signal quality problems are all evident at the modem itself,  the strongest possible indication that problems with my connection are related to recent changes made by Xfinity in my neighborhood exists.

I am bringing the problem to the attention of this forum because, although the connection still "works" and a cursory check with the Xfiniity "App" or web site will indicates that it is ostensibly "OK", it is no longer stable nor reliable - the connection quality has degraded.

An intermittent connection that drops out several times per day (or even per week) is simply not acceptable, given the nature of my work.



BRIEF HISTORY:

Initially, my Xfinity connection was as reliable as my former rock-solid DSL service was, which was an unexpected and pleasant surprise.

When I first subscribed to Xfinity Internet, I selected a Zoom 5341 cable modem specifically due to its reputation for stability, reliability and trouble-free operation. And both it and the Xfinity service were indeed reliable and trouble-free for a couple of years.

However in January, Xfinity notified me that I would be forced to replace my perfectly functional and trusted Zoom 5341 cable modem with something else by March 13, or I would lose my service, due to an "expired certificate" in the modem.

A brief digression: for those who don't know what a "certificate" is, it is just a cryptographic key set consisting of a "public" and "private" key ("keys" are just big numbers). "Certificates" have "expiration dates", but in a lot of contexts (like in a cable modem or gateway) those dates can be safely ignored, because numbers don't really "expire" and a certificate's date can't affect the security of a cryptographic exchange unless a certificate's private key was actually compromised. Expiration dates are only included in certificates as a caution, so that if a certificate is compromised, it will eventually "age out" of any systems that are unaware it has been compromised and/or "revoked."

At any rate, I selected another top-rated, Xfinity-approved modem - a Motorola MB-7420 - and installed and activated it around March 12 to avoid any service interruption. And initially, the connection to the new cable modem was as reliable as it had been with the previous Zoom unit.

However, I soon received yet another notice from Xfinity on March 29 that they would be "working to enhance the network in my area" starting March 30", and that the system outage would likely last all day.

The outage did indeed last all day, making it difficult to work, and when I got a message that my service should be back on-line at 7:43 PM, initially the connection quality looked OK. (I had to solve another problem caused by some unannounced changes to Xfinity's gateway servers, but that issue was on my side of the network downstream from the modem, and therefore my responsibility to troubleshoot and correct).

Unfortunately, over the last couple of weeks it has become clear that my connection was somehow degraded during the "upgrade", and it is no longer stable or reliable.

That fact is proven by examining the cable modem error logs, where connection problems are recorded and time-stamped. Here, the logs indicate several cable modem reboots (and commensurate internet connection interruptions) due to poor cable signal quality over a single weekend:

Thursday, April 20   8:30 PM

Friday,   April 21  12:51 AM
Friday,   April 21   5:57 AM
Friday,   April 21   5:58 AM
Friday,   April 21   6:09 AM
Friday,   April 21   8:08 AM
Friday    April 21   7:16 PM
Friday    April 21   9:09 PM

Saturday  April 22   4:04 PM
Saturday  April 22   4:37 PM


Sunday    April 23   3:37 AM
Sunday    April 23  12:28 PM
Sunday    April 23  12:31 PM


In addition, the modem status page shows 171,960 corrected and 105,762 total uncorrected errors on 16 downstream channels over 160 hours (9,600 minutes) of up-time, or approximately 11 uncorrected errors per minute. (Detailed error log messages follow).

Considering that all the easy remedies ("reboot/disconnect/power-cycle the modem) have already been done many times, and that:

   -> Before Xfinity's changes to "enhance" the network in my neighborhood per their March 30th notice, my connection was stable and consistent.

   -> After Xfinity's "enhancements", my connection is no longer stable or consistent.

Xfinity has clearly created a problem that must lie somewhere within Xfinity's system and/or its connection to my home, which only Xfinity can rectify. This assertion is strongly supported by the fact that neither my equipment or cable was changed  when the quality of my formerly reliable service declined.

The ONLY changes made were Xfinity's, outside of my home and my control, and the degradation of my service exactly coincided with the date that Xfinity's "neighborhood system upgrade" was performed.



NEXT STEPS ?

Incidentally, I just received notice from Xfinity that there will be another service interruption tomorrow, Monday April 24th in my area, to "correct performance issues."

While by chance this maintenance operation may remedy the problems I've observed and documented here, I don't want to just rely on luck at this point. I've already wasted far too much time trying to obtain and keep basic, reliable Internet service from Xfinity.

So given the facts and  history I have provided, how can I get Xfinity to restore my service to its former, reliable state without an endless argument about whose equipment is at fault, instructions to repeatedly reboot and/or re-purchase equipment, etc. ?

As a professional, any service that drops packets and disconnects several times per day or week like the service Xfinity is currently providing is simply unacceptable and useless to me. And dealing with the equipment changes, upgrades and other problems Xfinity caused has been incredibly time-consuming, costly and inconvenient as well.


I need a direct path forward to a solution, not more useless, scripted Tier 1 instructions from offshore customer service agents.


[ Modem error logs showing repeated T3/T4 time-outs and attendant connection losses (14 incidents) follow. ]


Thu Apr 20 20:29:01 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Thu Apr 20 20:30:06 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Thu Apr 20 20:30:38 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Thu Apr 20 20:31:11 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 00:50:22 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 00:51:27 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 21 00:51:51 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 00:51:59 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 1;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:24 2023   Critical (3)  16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 3;
Fri Apr 21 05:57:36 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 05:58:14 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 05:58:15 2023   Critical (3)  DHCP failed - DHCP Solicit sent, No DHCP Advertise received;
Fri Apr 21 05:58:33 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 05:58:38 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 06:07:59 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 06:09:04 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 21 06:09:19 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 06:09:40 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 08:07:19 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 08:08:24 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 21 08:08:36 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 12:12:44 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 12:12:58 2023   Warning (5)  Dynamic Range Window violation 
Fri Apr 21 12:13:20 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;

Fri Apr 21 19:14:31 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 19:15:36 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 21 19:15:55 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 19:16:10 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Fri Apr 21 21:07:52 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 21:08:57 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 21 21:09:19 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 21 21:09:26 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sat Apr 22 16:03:02 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:04:07 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Sat Apr 22 16:04:21 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:04:45 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sat Apr 22 16:35:57 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:37:02 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Sat Apr 22 16:37:28 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:37:35 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sat Apr 22 16:37:51 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:37:52 2023   Critical (3)  DHCP failed - RS sent, no RA received;
Sat Apr 22 16:38:04 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Sat Apr 22 16:38:26 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sun Apr 23 03:36:23 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sun Apr 23 03:37:28 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Sun Apr 23 03:37:46 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Sun Apr 23 03:37:54 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sun Apr 23 12:26:55 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sun Apr 23 12:28:00 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Sun Apr 23 12:28:12 2023   Critical (3)  No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;
Sun Apr 23 12:28:16 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

Sun Apr 23 12:30:21 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Sun Apr 23 12:31:26 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Sun Apr 23 12:31:38 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 

[ END OF LOG ]

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Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

In the end, the root cause of the difficulty discussed in this topic was not caused by Xfinity or the new modem that replaced the one I was forced to retire, but by a short patch cable inside my office providing the coax cable feed from a wall jack to the modem.

It turned out that the previous Zoom 5341 8x4 channel DOCSIS 3.0 modem was much more resistant to out-of-band radio frequency and electromagnetic interference (RFI/EMI) than the new Motorola MB7420 must be, so the Zoom was able to work just fine with a short length of RG-59 patch cable (which does not provide as much protection against high-frequency interference as the other common type RG-6 does).

The new Motorola MB7420 modem (also a DOCSIS 3.0 device, but capable of 16x4 channel operation) simply wouldn't tolerate the same cable, or several other RG-59 types I tried. This is likely because the MB7420 has a different design that's more broadband and RFI/EMI sensitive.

Nonetheless, I didn't anticipate that a short length of RG-59 would cause a problem in any case, especially since I had originally tested a RG-6 type patch cable back when I first subscribed to cable internet to see if it improved signal conditions over RG-59, and it did not.

To summarize: replacing an RG-59 patch cable from wall to modem with an RG-6 type definitively solved my uncorrected error, T3/T4 timeout and dropped-connection problems.

So, other customers who recently upgraded or replaced their modems and use a patch cable to connect them to a wall jack, and are now experiencing high uncorrected error counts and/or connection drops may want to look and see what type of cable they have.

If the patch cable is the RG-59 type, they may try picking up a ready-made RG-6 type replacement at a local hardware, home or electronics store for a few dollars, and see if it will solve their problems.

Some DOCSIS 3.1 modems running the highest-rate plans may even benefit from an upgrade to RG-6 "quad-shielded" cable, which while very thick and somewhat awkward to work with, does provide the best protection against interference.

This closes this issue for me.

I provide a final capture of my line statistics as an example of what a solid, nearly-ideal connection typically looks like. There are no entries in the modem error logs, and up until a few minutes ago, there were no uncorrected errors on any downstream channels over almost three days of up-time, and only a handful of corrected errors.

Cable communication systems are design to correct occasional errors, so having a smattering of corrected errors (typically concentrated on a subset of the downstream channels) is fine. Clearly, some sort of radio interference burst recently (and briefly) managed to affect Channel 4, but that is also to be expected from time to time, and no indication of any malfunction.

As long as there are not regularly error messages indicating that the connection was dropped and re-started in the modem error logs, the line quality is fine. More proof is in a ping (ICMP Echo) test I ran over the last three days, in which only four out of 840,199 ping packets were "lost":

840,199/840,195 packets, 0% loss

(Especially since the "lost" packets could be due to any device on the path to the ping target: my PC, the target itself, or any router or switch in between - not necessarily the cable system at all.)

Also note that issues with WiFi or LAN connections to computers, phones etc. downstream from a cable modem (or from the cable modem portion of a combined modem/gateway/wireless access point) have nothing to do with the Xfinity cable network, and must typically be solved by troubleshooting the configuration and operation of the downstream system(s).

To anyone who has been following along, Cheers! I hope this information may somehow help you in solving any connection issues you may be experiencing. :)

Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 0.4 41.0 899 1181
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 0.3 40.7 1 0
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 0.2 40.8 2 0
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 0.3 40.8 1 0
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 0.3 40.9 1 0
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 0.4 40.9 1 0
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 0.3 40.7 1 0
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 0.1 40.5 1 0
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 0.2 40.4 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 -0.1 35.8 1 0
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.1 40.2 18 0
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.2 40.2 13 0
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.4 40.1 10 0
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.5 40.0 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -0.5 40.0 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -0.6 39.9 6 0
Total             955 1181


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 22.8 43.5
2 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 16.4 43.6
3 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 29.2 43.5
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 35.6 43.2

 

Official Employee

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330 Messages

2 years ago

Hello @atarascio We appreciate you taking the time to reach out to us today and I know how important it is to ensure you have a stable and reliable internet service. Thanks for all of the detailed information and we'd be happy to troubleshoot to get this resolved. Please send me a DM with your name and full address by doing the following: 
 
Ensure you are first signed in, then you will see an icon at the top right of your page.
From there, click the 'New Message' icon. In the 'To' field, type 'Xfinity Support'.
Type your message in the text area that appears at the bottom of the window and hit enter to send. An official employee, such as myself or whoever is first available, will respond.

Contributor

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25 Messages

@XfinityJessicaA​ 

Icons in "modern" computer interface design are often inscrutable, having zero relation to anything physical or recognizable, so without a detailed description of what the "icon" looks like (or a screenshot) are often impossible to identify.

What I see across the top of my page is:

1) The word "HOME"

2) The word "xfinity"

3) A squared-off speech bubble, like one might see a character in a cartoon strip using.

4) A blue-green circle with a letter "A" in the center, which may or have not have anything to do with my first inital "A"

These four elements are all "flat" in appearance, so there is no clue which of them might be active screen elements vs. which of them are just textual elements.

Since there is no way for me to understand which of these things you are calling "an icon", please provide me with an exact description of every element I must select in sequence to reach the correct form to make a "DM".

Also note that in spite of working with conputing machinery for over 25 years, I am not positive about what "DM" means in the context of the arbitrary user interface of this web site. I assume it refers to some kind of "Direct Message" but clarification would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

Noted: another connectivity loss just occurred; Monday, April 24 8:02 AM EDST.

Official Employee

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1.9K Messages

Hmmmm.  That is odd.  We can definitely get a look at this for you.  Can yu send us a message trying these directions?

To send a "direct message" / "private message" message to Xfinity Support:

 • Click "Sign In" if necessary

 • Click the "Direct Message" icon or https://forums.xfinity.com/direct-messaging 

 • Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon

 • The "To:" line prompts you to "Type the name of a person". Instead, type "Xfinity Support" there

 •  - As you are typing a drop-down list appears. Select "Xfinity Support" from that list

 •  - An "Xfinity Support" graphic replaces the "To:" line

 • Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window

 • Press Enter to send it

I am an Official Xfinity Employee.
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We ask that you post publicly so people with similar questions may benefit from the conversation.
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Contributor

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25 Messages

OK, need a few minutes, need to (try) to attend some telecons this morning.

Official Employee

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1.9K Messages

No worries!  Take your time and let us now if you are able to shoot us a private message with the new directions.  

I am an Official Xfinity Employee.
Official Employees are from multiple teams within Xfinity: CARE, Product, Leadership.
We ask that you post publicly so people with similar questions may benefit from the conversation.
Was your question answered? Please, mark a reply as the Accepted Answer.tick

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

Noted: another connectivity loss just occurred; Monday, April 24 9:08 AM EDST.

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

Connection loss is now continuous since last report on Monday, April 24 9:08 AM EDST.

NO notice from Xfinity re: maintenance or outage at this time.

There are absolutely no words for how angry I am with this company and its employees at the moment.

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322 Messages

@atarascio We can look into these issues with you, if you could please send us a direct message with your name and complete service address. 

To send a "Direct Message" to Xfinity Support:

Click "Sign In" if necessary

Click the "Direct Messaging" icon or https://comca.st/3EqVMu7

Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon

The "To:" line prompts you to "Type the name of a person". Instead, type "Xfinity Support" there

 - As you are typing a drop-down list appears. Select "Xfinity Support" from that list

 - An "Xfinity Support" graphic replaces the "To:" line

Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window

Press Enter to send it

I no longer work for Comcast.

Contributor

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25 Messages

"@atarascio We can look into these issues with you, if you could please send us a direct message with your name and complete service address."

I have done so as requested.

Problem Solver

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322 Messages

@atarascio We are not receiving a direct message from you, if you could please follow the instructions provided, we can then proceed with assisting you.

I no longer work for Comcast.

Contributor

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25 Messages

@XfinityJamie​ 

The DM feature does not work.

How much time must I waste here ?

Contributor

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25 Messages

OK, after a page reload the thing seems to have sent a message successfully.

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

On the last failure, modem indicators showed down and upstream locks, but no network access.

Assuming that some aspect of the modem provisioning file may have been changed due to maintenance scheduled for this morning, it was power-cycled and connectivity has been restored, and  stability monitoring has resumed.

Until the connection is proven stable over a course of days, no resolution is assumed.

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

So far, one hour of uptime without errors, signal levels good (but they always were):

System Up Time 0 days 01h:15m:57s  
  
   Network Access Allowed  
  


   Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 0.9 40.6 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 1.0 40.9 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 1.0 40.7 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 1.0 40.8 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 0.8 40.5 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 1.1 40.7 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 0.9 40.5 0 0
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 0.6 40.2 0 0
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 0.9 40.4 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 0.9 35.7 0 0
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 0.7 40.2 0 0
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 0.6 40.2 0 0
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 0.5 40.1 0 0
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 0.5 40.1 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 0.2 39.9 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 0.0 39.8 0 0
Total             0 0


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 16.4 44.0
2 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 22.8 43.5
3 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 29.2 43.7
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 35.6 43.2

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

The signal quality has remained good for three hours after presumed maintenance.

Zero errors, zero error log entries, and zero connection drops.

If the signal is now stable, the maintenance operation in the area this morning may have corrected the whole issue.

But I will continue to monitor signal conditions over the next few days, and post my findings (good or bad) here. If the signal remains clean for a few days, the matter can be considered closed.

Contributor

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25 Messages

2 years ago

22 hours uptime and looking good!  Still zero errors, zero error log entries, and zero connection drops - a solid, noise-free connection, so I'm very pleased so far. :)

Upstream transmit power does tend to slowly increase after a cold restart/power cycle, but as long as it doesn't climb too far above 45 dBmV I think it's OK.

Once the connection reaches seven days up-time with no major problems or disconnects, I think we can conclude that Xfinity proactively identified and corrected whatever issue was causing poor signal quality in the neighborhood.

For that I'll be thankful to both the company and their associates, as it demonstrates systems are being actively monitored to spare customers (and agents) the difficult process of reporting and troubleshooting degraded connections.

(Or, other people are much quicker to complain than I am.) :)

[ Current connection statistics follow ]

 Connection Status    
   System Up Time 0 days 23h:07m:06s  
  
   Network Access Allowed  
  


   Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 -0.4 40.3 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 -0.4 40.5 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 -0.5 40.3 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 -0.4 40.3 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 -0.3 40.3 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 -0.2 40.5 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 -0.3 40.3 0 0
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -0.6 40.1 0 0
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 -0.2 40.3 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 -0.3 35.7 0 0
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.5 40.1 0 0
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.5 40.1 0 0
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.5 40.1 0 0
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.5 40.1 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -0.9 39.9 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -1.1 39.7 0 0
Total             0 0


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 16.4 45.8
2 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 22.8 44.7
3 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 29.2 45.2
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 35.6 45.2

 

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Awesome @user_ata424!  So glad that you are up and running without issue.  We will continue to check in on you and if you run into an issue, we are always a post or message away from you! 

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There was a brief burst of uncorrectable errors this morning, and one T3 time-out. But that's not necessarily a problem; occasional errors are fine as long as they don't become chronic and there's no discontinuity in the connection.

Note the time logged is EST, there doesn't seem to be an adjustment for EDST so the actual local time was e.g. 10:30 AM.

Connection Status    
   System Up Time 1 days 04h:28m:23s  
  
   Network Access Allowed  
  


   Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 0.1 41.8 152 450
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 0.1 42.0 29 91
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 0.0 41.8 51 80
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 0.1 41.9 18 56
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 0.0 41.7 47 91
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 0.2 41.9 45 68
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 0.0 41.6 32 81
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -0.3 41.2 39 110
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 0.1 41.6 25 43
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 0.0 37.0 26 42
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.2 41.1 37 30
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.2 41.0 39 28
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.2 40.9 42 39
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.2 40.9 28 127
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -0.6 40.5 14 53
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -0.8 40.3 35 32
Total             659 1421

Tue Apr 25 09:30:00 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;

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Thanks so much for following up and keeping us in the loop.  Are you still running into an issue?

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I continue to experience a good number of uncorrected errors on all downstream channels, but they seem to accumulate in a "bursty" manner. In other words, the error count will not change for several minutes or possibly hours, then it will suddenly increment.

And I have no way to continuously log errors from this modem; I believe SNMP access to its connection status is blocked or not supported, I have no information on that and am too busy with my work during the day to poll the HTTP interface constantly.

As you well know, this is why "intermittent" and "Quality of Service" problems are so frustrating and take so much time to resolve.

For example, this morning @ 6:14 AM EDST there was one connection drop due to T3/T4 timeouts:

Wed Apr 26 05:12:44 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Wed Apr 26 05:13:49 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Wed Apr 26 05:14:00 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 


Current signal levels seem correct and stable, and there have been no additional problems yet:

System Up Time 1 days 23h:53m:05s  
  
   Network Access Allowed  
  


   Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 -0.4 40.3 2022 1309
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 -0.4 40.3 1843 868
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 -0.5 40.3 1917 1026
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 -0.4 40.3 1915 1047
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 -0.4 40.3 1564 747
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 -0.2 40.4 1552 775
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 -0.4 40.2 1661 990
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -0.7 40.1 1637 1037
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 -0.3 40.3 1341 691
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 -0.4 35.6 1417 648
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.6 40.1 1638 704
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.6 40.0 1467 572
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.6 40.0 1250 477
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.6 40.0 1174 600
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -1.0 39.8 1287 670
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -1.2 39.6 1467 601
Total             25152 12762


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 22.8 44.8
2 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 16.4 46.5
3 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 29.2 45.0
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 35.6 45.2


Doing some simple calculations, in ~ 48 hours of up-time, there has been:

1) One (1) connection drop.
2) Three T3 timeouts and one T4 timeout.
3) 12,762 uncorrected downstream errors, or (12,762 / (48 hours * 60 minutes/hour)) = (12,762 / 2,880) = ~ 4.4 uncorrected errors per minute, average.

Are you still running into an issue?

I don't know. I'm not a cable networking expert, but I know basic electrical engineering, embedded software design and general Ethernet/IP/TCP networking principles pretty well.

On a plain Ethernet link, I know those error rates would be unacceptable. But on an RF link to a CMTS? I simply don't know what's acceptable.

That's why I am going through so much trouble to speak with you, in the hope you (or someone at a higher level) can tell me if those error rates are "acceptable".

Right now, I have had one disconnection in 48 hours, which is acceptable if and only if  it does not e.g. occur every 48 hours. Likewise, the downstream error count has not changed in the ten or so minutes it has taken me to compose this transmittal, which seems to indicate that there is some transient problem in your cable plant. It's not currently affecting me, but may if the uncorrectable errors cause additional service drops.

The bottom line is: I need an essentially uninterrupted connection to the internet, as provided through a direct-wired Ethernet connection to a cable modem and up through your CMTS, without high packet loss or other data integrity problems.

If you can provide that over the course of many days at a time, I don't have an "issue." If you can't, I do have an issue.

So we will both have to continue to wait for several days, and see if the line conditions remain stable and acceptable to me.

In the meantime I will continue to report here, in the hope I can help other frustrated customers with far less technical knowledge understand what they must do to solve the absolute worst possible problem a residential Internet customer can have: a poor-quality or intermittent connection.

(UC error count still frozen @ 12,762, which is good, and no T3/T4 timeouts. But only time can tell, as Quality = Reliability / Time.) :)

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Hi there!  Thanks so much for taking the time to follow up with us today.  Can you tell with since this issue, if you are unable to connect at all?  We would like to take a closer look at things for you.  

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@user_ata424 wrote;

I believe SNMP access to its connection status is blocked or not supported, I have no information on that and am too busy with my work during the day to poll the HTTP interface constantly.

FWIW. That's correct. Client-side SNMP was blocked by them long ago for security reasons.

As an FYI. Perhaps there is noise ingress into the line(s) /  an upstream channel / return path impairment somewhere.

There are other signal stat values that can't be read by the modem. They are the "Upstream Rx Power" (Upstream Receive Power Level), the "Upstream SNR Ch." (Upstream Signal To Noise Ratio), and the "Upstream ICFR" (In Channel Frequency Response). These are as equally important in diagnosing connectivity issues as are the modem's stats.


The Comcast corporate employee(s) that are assisting you should poll the CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System) with their tools to check for any real-time degradation and / or error reports, see your node / cable plant, and modem health, and see whether or not everything is in the green zone. They can also see a history plot for the modem and poll the CMTS for those upstream receive signal stats. Good luck with it !

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If you're actually reading anything I'm spending so much time and effort to type, you should be able to discern that:

1) I'm connected right now.

2) I've experienced one connection drop in the last 48 hours, and only a few T3/T4 timeout errors (which caused the connection interruption). Which is probably good - but again this is for you to determine, as you are the expert, or presumably have access to experts who can make that determination.

3) I'm experiencing occasional "bursts" of uncorrected downstream errors, which right at the moment have stopped, but from recent experience may again become a problem if they resume.

4) Right now the connection is stable, there are no additional T3/T4 timeouts since this morning, and the downstream error counts are not increasing, so there is essentially no problem at the moment.

But I have lost my trust in the reliability of your system, due to all the trouble I have experienced lately.

And so I refuse to agree that there is "no issue" until you (meaning Xfinity) have proven to me you can once again maintain a quality connection over time.

So again we encounter the fundamental challenge and frustration with these types of problems - they are not consistent.

You are certainly welcome to take a closer look at things for me. The vast majority of the cable internet system does not belong to me, and is not my responsibility to maintain - that is what I pay Comcast/Xfinity for.

For example, if you have access to an extended history of my connection's statistics through your system's logs, you should be able to verify my assertion that the connection quality was excellent before the "neighborhood upgrade", was very degraded after the upgrade, and improved again with the  recent maintenance activities Xfinity performed on Monday, April 24 in my service area.

All I can do is report, in detail, the admittedly limited information I have access to as a consumer through the cable system termination point where your autonomous system transitions to mine: at the cable modem's Ethernet interface.

Unfortunately, this is NOT a binary condition where every connection is either "good" or "none" - the most challenging problems are the ones where the connection is "sometimes good, sometimes poor" - but with all due respect, Xfinity seems ill-prepared to deal with any situation other than a binary "issue" or "no issue."

Perhaps we'd best be served if someone at a very high level in your organization, with detailed knowledge of the changes, upgrades and maintenance  operations recently performed in my service area, could call me directly at the primary contact telephone number for my account that you have on file.

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So far today, the cable/RF link has been up and stable since a single drop this morning.

Downstream error counters are not logging any additional errors, and more importantly, no more T3/T4 timeouts or disconnects have been recorded in the modem  error log. Open media streams, VPN adapters and other connections to the WAN interface the modem services remain connected.

This is what a good connection looks like, if it keeps operating like this day after day. :)

So, I continue to wait and see if the line will remain quiet and connected long-term...

 Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 -0.2 40.4 2022 1309
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 -0.1 40.7 1843 868
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 -0.2 40.5 1917 1026
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 -0.2 40.5 1915 1047
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 -0.2 40.4 1564 747
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 0.0 40.6 1552 775
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 -0.2 40.3 1661 990
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -0.5 40.2 1637 1037
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 -0.1 40.3 1341 691
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 -0.2 35.8 1417 648
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.4 40.2 1638 704
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.4 40.1 1467 572
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.5 40.1 1250 477
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.5 40.1 1174 600
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -0.8 39.9 1287 670
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -1.0 39.7 1467 601
Total             25152 12762

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Good morning to anyone following along on our quest for reliable internet service over coaxial cable. It's definitely better than bongo drums: https://web.archive.org/web/20051228141940/http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/

(Courtesy of the Internet Archive). Also look for the autobiographical film "The Bit Player" about the life of Claude Shannon, without whose insights into the fundamental nature of information and logic, modern communications and computation would have probably taken a lot longer to arrive.

At any rate, my connection has been active since Wed Apr 26 6:14 AM EDST, so the total connection up-time since the last connection loss is about thirty hours (the reported modem up-time is not important).

Uncorrected Errors continue to slowly accrue, but since I've not been able to obtain a definitive answer from any source on the Web or within Xfinity as to when the number of uncorrectable errors on a connection constitutes a problem with that connection, all I can say is there has been no huge increase in the numbers; they rose about 33% overnight.

The important thing is that the connection's been maintained for a day so far without dropping, and seems to be providing good performance. A good connection should stay up continuously for long periods of time unless there's an outage or maintenance in the area; that's the baseline performance metric that must be satisfied first.

  Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 0.0 41.8 3046 1681
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 0.1 42.0 2813 1188
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 0.0 41.8 3110 1341
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 0.0 41.8 3207 1376
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 0.0 41.7 2375 929
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 0.2 41.8 2394 1007
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 0.0 41.6 2443 1286
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -0.3 41.2 2595 1368
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 0.1 41.5 2131 971
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 0.0 37.0 2240 819
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -0.2 41.1 2415 983
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -0.3 41.0 2202 806
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -0.3 40.9 1960 692
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -0.3 40.9 1875 800
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -0.6 40.5 2036 937
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -0.8 40.3 2206 844
Total             39048 17028

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OK, this is the kind of thing I can't tolerate - these connection drops. They interrupt any VPN connections or streams I have running, and are totally unacceptable.

The latest was this morning, on Friday April 28 at 4:19 AM EDST. I just happened to wake up right when the failure occurred.

(As noted earlier, the log times are in EST and so off by -1 hour).

Fri Apr 28 03:19:37 2023   Critical (3)  Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;
Fri Apr 28 03:20:42 2023   Critical (3)  Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;
Fri Apr 28 03:20:53 2023   Notice (6)  Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6 


Errors also continue to accumulate on all channels, standing at 27,316 as of this moment, a 60% increase in just 19 hours.

All the downstream signal levels, S/N ratios and upstream power levels are good, but the connection still can't go more than a day without dropping.

So something is wrong with the network in this neighborhood and someone from Xfinity needs to come out here and fix it.

Again, my setup hasn't been altered; it worked perfectly for two years until Xfinity came and changed something on the utility poles.

 Connection Status    
   System Up Time 3 days 20h:42m:41s  
  
   Network Access Allowed  
  

   Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
1 Locked QAM256 4 471.0 -0.9 40.1 5537 2385
2 Locked QAM256 1 453.0 -1.0 40.2 5698 2064
3 Locked QAM256 2 459.0 -1.1 40.1 6198 2162
4 Locked QAM256 3 465.0 -1.0 40.1 6646 2160
5 Locked QAM256 5 477.0 -0.8 40.2 3897 1662
6 Locked QAM256 6 483.0 -0.7 40.2 3774 1652
7 Locked QAM256 7 489.0 -0.9 40.1 4053 1901
8 Locked QAM256 8 495.0 -1.2 39.9 4670 2040
9 Locked QAM256 9 501.0 -0.7 40.1 3546 1523
10 Locked QAM256 10 507.0 -0.8 35.2 3655 1472
11 Locked QAM256 11 513.0 -1.1 39.9 3998 1514
12 Locked QAM256 12 519.0 -1.1 39.9 3523 1304
13 Locked QAM256 13 525.0 -1.0 39.9 2979 1283
14 Locked QAM256 14 531.0 -1.0 39.9 2772 1406
15 Locked QAM256 15 537.0 -1.5 39.6 3175 1418
16 Locked QAM256 16 543.0 -1.7 39.4 3443 1370
Total             67564 27316


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
1 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 29.2 44.3
2 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 22.8 43.7
3 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 16.4 45.1
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 35.6 44.5

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OK, fellow cable internet fans, what I have discovered on my own and mostly by fortunate chance is that: the brand-new cable modem I purchased recently to replace the working one Xfinity forced me to retire is probably defective, in spite of being top-rated and carrying a two-year warranty.

Physically moving or disturbing the modem (for example, just tapping it) consistently causes the uncorrected error count to spike dramatically. In electronics, this is known as an "intermittent mechanical failure" (there are also "thermal intermittents" triggered by temperature).

Obviously, a problem that subtle is pure Heck for everyone trying to troubleshoot a complicated system.

So, it's my responsibility to replace the bad modem or any defective cabling before I can fault Xfinity, although I'm still not pleased they forced me to replace a working, trusted unit with a new one that could possibly be defective because of an "expired certificate".

Throughout this frustrating process, all the Xfinity people I had contact with were very understanding and helpful. They deserve a lot of credit for their patience in dealing with me and other customers that are unfortunate enough to encounter an intermittent connection problem of this nature.

Once I have procured a new, compatible working cable modem, I'll report the results here, and I'm fairly confident they'll be good. :)

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2 years ago

More information to pass along:

A short coaxial patch cable ran from the wall jack where my Xfinity feed is located to my former Zoom 5341 cable modem. The cable is in fine condition in a furnished area of the house, and never caused any problems, so I re-used it to connect the new Motorola MB7240 cable modem I purchased when Xfinity forced me to upgrade my equipment.

Once I discovered that the modem and/or cable were sensitive to mechanical disturbance, I suspected something might be wrong with the cable first, since it is much cheaper and more convenient to change than the modem. And upon careful inspection, I noticed that the old cable's center conductor or "stinger" was thinner (a smaller wire gauge) than that of several other coax patch cables I have.

[ I have a very large collection of cables and media of all types, as I have lived through many, many generations of technological change. It's quite annoying. But that's a rant for another time. :) ]

At any rate, after replacing the (now) suspect cable with the thin center conductor with another that had a slightly thicker conductor, the cable and modem assembly was no longer sensitive to mechanical disturbances, and seems to maintain a solid, error-free connection even when moved or tapped.

So the new modem is probably not defective, just incompatible with the old cable.

Apparently, the coaxial "F" connector on the Zoom 5341 cable modem maintained a tighter grip on the coaxial cable's center conductor than the newer Motorola MB7240  cable modem does, and so moving or tapping the new modem would cause the old cable's thinner center conductor to vibrate inside the "F" connector, interrupting the connection and causing errors.

This is why any unnecessary equipment change is risky and should never be forced. It's hard to predict how all the different components (including cables) in a complex system will interact, and even small details can cause big problems.

So, with the new patch cable in place, the modem has been cold-started and we are back to zero days, zero hours up-time.

I will continue to monitor the connection quality and report any issues here, but I suspect my intermittent connection problem may have finally been solved. If so, no doubt that will be a huge relief to me, Xfinity and you, patient reader. :)

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