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Periodic Short Loss of Internet and Frequent Modem Reboots
For the last couple of months, in SW Chicago suburbs, I have experienced periodic internet disconnects and frequent gateway reboots. It has been getting worse lately, most often occurring mid to late morning but also throughout the day. I stream TV with YouTube TV so it gets annoying. It can last from seconds to minutes. Modem stats don't look terrible, but it does appear there is some noise on the line. I'm internet only so the cable comes in directly to gateway from the box in a short run.
It got so bad yesterday that I called support and had a very unsatisfying conversation trying to get a tech to come out without a $100 charge. I have an SVG2482AC gateway but went to the store yesterday and picked up a new XFi gateway to verify it was not a modem issue. Outages continued last night and this morning with the new gateway although it does seem to react better and get back online sooner. Logs provide no helpful information. Gateway stats follow-
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Downstream
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Channel Bonding Value | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Channel ID |
5
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2
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3
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4
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6
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7
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8
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9
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10
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11
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12
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13
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14
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15
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16
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17
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18
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19
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20
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21
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22
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23
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24
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25
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26
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27
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28
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29
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30
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36
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37
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31
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Lock Status |
Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Frequency |
507 MHz
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483 MHz
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489 MHz
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495 MHz
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513 MHz
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519 MHz
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525 MHz
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531 MHz
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537 MHz
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543 MHz
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549 MHz
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555 MHz
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561 MHz
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567 MHz
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573 MHz
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579 MHz
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585 MHz
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591 MHz
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597 MHz
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603 MHz
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609 MHz
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615 MHz
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621 MHz
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627 MHz
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633 MHz
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639 MHz
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645 MHz
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651 MHz
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657 MHz
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663 MHz
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669 MHz
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722000000
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SNR |
39.4 dB
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39.1 dB
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39.3 dB
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39.0 dB
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39.1 dB
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39.0 dB
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39.6 dB
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39.7 dB
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39.6 dB
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40.1 dB
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40.3 dB
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40.3 dB
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40.4 dB
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40.7 dB
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40.6 dB
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40.0 dB
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39.7 dB
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39.7 dB
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39.3 dB
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39.5 dB
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40.1 dB
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40.6 dB
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39.4 dB
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38.5 dB
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28.1 dB
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32.6 dB
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0.0 dB
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41.1 dB
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40.9 dB
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40.3 dB
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40.0 dB
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39.7 dB
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Power Level |
-3.6 dBmV
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-4.0 dBmV
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-3.6 dBmV
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-4.4 dBmV
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-4.4 dBmV
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-4.7 dBmV
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-3.4 dBmV
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-3.0 dBmV
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-3.3 dBmV
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-2.3 dBmV
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-1.2 dBmV
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-1.2 dBmV
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0.6 dBmV
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0.2 dBmV
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0.7 dBmV
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-2.0 dBmV
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-2.6 dBmV
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-2.7 dBmV
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-3.6 dBmV
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-3.4 dBmV
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-1.9 dBmV
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0.7 dBmV
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0.5 dBmV
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0.8 dBmV
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1.8 dBmV
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1.5 dBmV
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1.2 dBmV
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1.1 dBmV
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0.2 dBmV
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-1.5 dBmV
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-2.3 dBmV
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0.5 dBmV
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Modulation |
256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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256 QAM
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OFDM
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Upstream
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Channel Bonding Value | |||||
Channel ID |
1
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2
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3
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4
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5
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Lock Status |
Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Locked
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Frequency |
35 MHz
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29 MHz
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22 MHz
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16 MHz
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39 MHz
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Symbol Rate |
5120
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5120
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5120
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5120
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1280
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Power Level |
47.8 dBmV
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47.0 dBmV
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47.0 dBmV
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46.8 dBmV
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45.3 dBmV
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Modulation |
QAM
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QAM
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QAM
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QAM
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QAM
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Channel Type |
ATDMA
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ATDMA
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ATDMA
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ATDMA
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ATDMA
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Accepted Solution
wjdhsyhjsz
Contributor
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Final update unless the signal degrades again. After a spontaneous modem reboot overnight, DS channels have returned to normal; 2 (483 MHz) - 37 (669 MHz). Formerly noisy channels (25 - 28) are back and locked within normal range, so system noise has disappeared. No additional contact from support or service on the pole that I know of, but they likely wouldn't let me know anyway.
Internet is stable and fast.
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XfinityMarcos
Official Employee
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2.3K Messages
2 years ago
@wjdhsyhjsz, thank you for the detailed post and the logs, that really helps to make sure we understand what you're experiencing. With everyone so connected these days, intermittent drops like these are super annoying to deal with and hit a lot harder, so I'd be reaching out to get this fixed if I was in your shoes too. I see we're already working in a direct message, so we'll continue there. Please keep in mind that sending an unsolicited direct message does go against our Forum Guidelines, as we like to help as much as possible publicly. My team will help you all the same, but in the future please hold off on those DM's until being requested by an official employee.
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wjdhsyhjsz
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Adding Modem stats from this morning after Xfinity tried tweaking modem. Channels 27 & 28 clearly have noise issues. Note the uncorrected codewords and low SNR compared to other channels. The XB7 gateway does bounce back quicker than my old gateway but the problem appears to be squarely in the Xfinity network given the short cable run straight to the gateway.
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EG
Expert
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110.1K Messages
2 years ago
FWIW. The upstream power levels are now out of spec. Clearly, something intermittent is going on somewhere. You need to get the techs re-involved until things get found and fixed correctly.
Bear in mind that if the premises facing techs can not find or fix a problem at your home, it is they who are responsible for escalating it to their line / network / maintenance dept. techs. The problem may lie beyond your home in the local neighborhood infrastructure somewhere but it is their S.O.P. to start at the home. And if the problem is found to be on their side of the demarcation point, there will not be any charge.
Good luck !
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wjdhsyhjsz
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Circling back to provide an update. I have not heard anything from Xfinity but after running a troubleshooting session from the Xfinity app, I noticed a whole block of channels centered around the channels with low SNR have disappeared. For my 400 MBs plan that is more than enough bandwidth to deliver the rated plan speed and performance. I've had no drops since the channels were excluded so I haven't reset the modem. I guess I have a question as to whether this is a normal means for Xfinity to resolve noise issues on their line? I doubt I could get Gig speeds if I were to upgrade.
Adding- I'm now paying $15/month for a leased XB7 and am wondering if I switched back to my old gateway if channel exclusion provisioning could be done on the SVG2482AC or if it is only available on the rental?
In any case modem stats follow-
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EG
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110.1K Messages
2 years ago
Channels don't get excluded or included deliberately due to provisioning. That's not how it works. All available channels are bonded if there are no line / noise impairment problems. If there are problems, channels can get dropped / changed on the fly. There is a signal problem here. There is a 7 dB difference in the power levels of downstream channels 15 and channel 39. There should only be around a 2-3 dB difference. And many of the channels are too low / weak, or out of spec altogether. There's a lot of uncorrected bit errors. You really need to get the techs re-involved until things get fixed properly.
I'll repeat these comments. Bear in mind that if the premises facing techs can not find or fix a problem at your home, it is they who are responsible for escalating it to their line / network / maintenance dept. techs. The problem may lie beyond your home in the local neighborhood infrastructure somewhere but it is their S.O.P. to start at the home. And if the problem is found to be on their side of the demarcation point, there will not be any charge.
Good luck !
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wjdhsyhjsz
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Tech scheduled for tomorrow. The following modem stats document continued noise issue in mid to upper 20s channels.
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EG
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110.1K Messages
2 years ago
Good luck with it ! Please post back here about how things turn out afterward.
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wjdhsyhjsz
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Tech was great. Found 2 channels with terrible SNR, too low downstream power and too high upstream power. Checked the tap on the pole and found the same problems. He reconnected everything and was in process of filing report to get systems crew out when health check showed problems disappeared. Still have good signals this morning. Weird, but glad to confirm it's a ghost in the system and not on my premises.
Modem stats from this morning. Note the uncorrectable codewords in channels 24-28 were from prior to the magical restoration of good signals. So, I think systems is still coming out to do more testing but not sure what they can do until the signal acts up again.
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wjdhsyhjsz
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128 Messages
2 years ago
Update- Service is stable but I can't tell if they fixed the underlying issue of noise on the service line. They may have just blocked the noisy channels from being accessed.
The noise was worst on frequencies 627 & 645 MHz. No channels above 591 MHz are available. Channels are restricted to 405 - 591 MHz. Periodic modem reboots to check locked channels show the noisy channels are not available. But it has been working without drops and power levels are stable and in normal ranges.
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EG
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110.1K Messages
2 years ago
Thanks for posting that update. FWIW. There is a function in the system that can automatically unlock a noisy set of channels and push a different profile of DS channels to the modem. Hope things hold up for you ! Again, good luck with it !
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