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Thursday, August 10th, 2023 6:19 AM

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Motorola MB8611 Dropping Connection Several Times A Day... Again

My Motorola MB8611 (which I purchased early last December and which is still on the Xfinity approved modems list) is again dropping the connection several times a day and restarting.  I've seen this problem periodically since the end of the year.  Sometimes it'll go several weeks without any problems then they'll start up again.  I've tried all the usual troubleshooting, and the customer service people aren't able to go beyond their "unplug and restart" script.

Any suggestions?  I'm worried that I'm just going to end up having to eat the cost and buy a new modem.

Stats and recent event log are below.

Stats...

Software - Device Information
 Cable Specification Version DOCSIS 3.1
 Hardware Version V1.0
Software Version 8611-19.2.18
Cable Modem MAC Address xxx
Cable Modem Serial Number xxx
CM Certificate Installed
    Prod_19.2_d31

Startup Sequence
 Startup Step Status Comment   
   Acquire Downstream Channel 489000000 Hz Locked   
   Upstream Connection OK Operational   
   Boot State OK Operational   
   Configuration File OK   
   Security Enabled BPI+
Downstream Bonded Channels  Connection Status
   System Up Time 0 days 00h:03m:58s   
   Network Access Allowed
Downstream Bonded Channels
 Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
   1 Locked QAM256 13 489 3.3 41.2 0 0
   2 Locked QAM256 1 417 3.1 41.3 0 0
   3 Locked QAM256 2 423 3 41.1 0 0
   4 Locked QAM256 3 429 3.2 41.4 0 0
   5 Locked QAM256 4 435 3.4 41.3 0 0
   6 Locked QAM256 5 441 2.9 41.1 0 0
   7 Locked QAM256 6 447 2.8 41.1 0 0
   8 Locked QAM256 7 453 2.9 41.2 0 0
   9 Locked QAM256 8 459 2.8 41.1 0 0
   10 Locked QAM256 9 465 2.9 41 0 0
   11 Locked QAM256 10 471 2.8 41.1 0 0
   12 Locked QAM256 11 477 3.3 41.3 0 0
   13 Locked QAM256 12 483 3.2 41.2 0 0
   14 Locked QAM256 14 495 3.2 41.1 0 0
   15 Locked QAM256 15 507 3.6 41.3 0 0
   16 Locked QAM256 16 513 3.6 41.4 0 0
   17 Locked QAM256 17 519 3.7 41.3 0 0
   18 Locked QAM256 18 525 3.8 41.4 0 0
   19 Locked QAM256 19 531 4.2 41.5 0 0
   20 Locked QAM256 20 537 4.2 41.5 0 0
   21 Locked QAM256 21 543 4.2 41.4 0 0
   22 Locked QAM256 22 549 4.7 41.6 0 0
   23 Locked QAM256 23 555 4.9 41.8 0 0
   24 Locked QAM256 24 561 5.1 41.7 0 0
   25 Locked OFDM PLC 25 690 5.9 41.8 884750 0
   26 Locked QAM256 26 567 5 41.6 0 0
   27 Locked QAM256 27 573 5.1 41.7 0 0
   28 Locked QAM256 28 579 5.2 41.7 0 0
   29 Locked QAM256 29 585 5.3 41.9 0 0
   30 Locked QAM256 30 591 5.3 41.9 0 0
   31 Locked QAM256 31 597 5.1 41.7 0 0
   32 Locked QAM256 32 603 5.4 41.8 0 0
Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
   1 Locked SC-QAM 41 5120 16.3 48.8
   2 Locked SC-QAM 42 5120 22.8 48.8
   3 Locked SC-QAM 43 5120 29.2 48.8
   4 Locked SC-QAM 44 5120 35.6 48.8

And the event log over the past 14 hours since noon ET yesterday.

Date Time EST (+1 hr for  EDT) Priority Description
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Wed Aug 9 2023 10:53:26 Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Wed Aug 9 2023 14:10:06 Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 9 2023 Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Wed Aug 9 2023 17:26:03 Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Thu Aug 10 2023 0:32:11 Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxx:eb:49;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 Time Not Established Notice (6) Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Thu Aug 10 2023 0:44:48 Notice (6) DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 10 2023 0:45:05 Notice (6) CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 25; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 0.;CM-MAC=xxx;CMTS-MAC=xxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

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2 years ago

FWIW, getting rid of the MB8611 and switching to the Arris S33 resolved a similar issue for me: https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/sync-timing-synchronization-failure-multiple-modems-motorola-mb8611-netgear-c6250/64d58726e228f948d8d4e3a1.

Luckily I was still within the return window for 8611; in your position, I'd be pretty upset with Xfinity for introducing the incompatibility that forces you to buy a new modem, and/or with Zoom for not releasing a firmware update to support their product.

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2 years ago

It's not dropping, it's spontaneously rebooting.  Looks like fairly often (time not established in your log).  At that moment in time in your post, you are running towards the high side on upstream power.  You're still OK right then, but you want some head space.  Might be drifting a lot higher over time.  Outbound power adjusts itself to push signal out.  Too high, it will reboot.  

Weird signal inflection 441-471 MHz on downstream.  That's in spec but it's pointing to an instability acting like a notch filter.  A splitter perhaps.  In a perfect world, all of your signals are within a dB or two.  Most of them are these types of problems if you want to look at it yourself. 

https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/yea-please-fix-your-service-kthxbai/64ca8e5a176e642d0138c752  Old cable installs can be pretty ancient equipment.

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@flatlander3​ Check the updated list of cable modems Xfinity has. They have de-listed this modem (not recommended) due to numerous reports of issues just like yours.

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Here's the list, for reference: https://assets.xfinity.com/assets/dotcom/projects_2/my_device/Full-List-of-Compatible-Devices.pdf

I just posted about yet another similar issue with the MB8611: https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/sync-timing-synchronization-failure-multiple-modems-motorola-mb8611-netgear-c6250/64d58726e228f948d8d4e3a1. This list must have just changed, since when I looked at it before purchasing the modem, the list was a different format and it was still on there! (I swear this was more recently than May 15, when it says it was updated.)

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@dbroccardo​  Yes.

And if you buy another modem/gateway and plug it in, supported or not to the same line, you will likely have the same signal issues if you don't fix components/aging equipment hanging off that line that are behaving like analog signal filters.

Will you get provisioned and the config file for "plan speed" on unsupported equipment?  Probably not.  That's a different question.

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2 years ago

... They have de-listed this modem (not recommended) ...

The MB8611 is not a "recommended" device on https://assets.xfinity.com/assets/dotcom/projects_2/my_device/Full-List-of-Compatible-Devices.pdf, but is still listed  as "compatible" in that document for plan speeds "up to 2.33 Gbps".

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2 years ago

Hey there @userid_3j4acb ! It looks like there has been a lot of great information here, that's exactly what the forums are for! Did you have a chance to look for any splitters or replace any of the internal wiring in your home? If your coax to the outlet that the modem is connected to has to be wall-fished to be replaced, that would be work that a local electrician or similar would do. I would be happy to run a few checks to ensure your signals are within spec on our side of things. If you'd like to work further on this to gather that information, please send us a direct message.

 

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