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Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023 6:31 AM

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High data usage

I'm seeing a steady increase in data usage over at least the last 3 months.  We are a streaming household.  But nothing has changed in streaming content consumption over the past 3 months and yet the growth curve continues to advance.

I don't see any way to get data usage info longer than 3 months.  Is this possible?  What other data usage statistics does Comcast offer?

My router doesn't offer any useful info (AX3000 4-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router).  Modem is Motorola SB8600.

3 month data usage:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J7QLOci0gVpwtoF-OCn2SbU3x-S--QLb/view?usp=sharing

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2 years ago

"get data usage info longer than 3 months.  Is this possible?" :  If you log into Xfinity.com as an administrator account, then after logging in, the top left banner has an internet drop down link that will show your current services, equipment and data use in a "Your Plan" section.  If you click on the data use, it will bring up a monthly use bar graph.  There is also a small link that will show a data table with 7 months of data use or so.  

What other data usage statistics does Comcast offer?:  None.  That's all you get. 

Every time you connect a device to the internet, you are doing something different.  You are checking for updates both program and os, you are looking at content originating from different sources, plus templates originating on 3rd party sites, cloud servers that could be anywhere that change all the time, a lot of trackers and ads that all check in elsewhere, broken scripts that run in loops (intentionally sometimes), and you are exposed to traffic both solicited and unsolicited and interacting with all of it.  Some of it is malicious as well.

Streaming content is delivered in different bit rates and varies quite a bit due to network conditions and it happens in real time while you are watching the stream. You'll notice stream quality also changes dramatically when ads cut in.  That's because there are typically fewer delivery options for those.  Most other content is broken up into as many is 12 other bit rate options to smooth out play back for streaming devices.  Software feedback between your device and the content provider selects which one you watch -- that is what decides what the data burn rate will be at any given time, for any given stream. 

Streaming providers are also not equal.  It's going to depend on the codec they used (H.264 vs H.265 usually), all the settings they used to encode it, and how they deliver it.  There is also quite a bit of 4K and 8K content out there these days, so you can expect some high data use on a lot of them.  Hulu and Peacock these days are kind of pigs.  Other ones like Philo and Pluto really aren't that bad, but can be on paid/purchased content.  Youtube is all over that map. 

If you are running into this frequently, your options are running blind and paying for unlimited, or running all of your data including WiFi through something that can see the traffic being used by every device, and throttle data use so you can control burn rates. If you let a streaming device run wide open, it will pull whatever it possibly can in data, limited only by your network connection and it's own hardware/software limitations, whenever it can.  You can't control that behavior with Xfinity equipment, your Motorola, or Router.

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@flatlander3​ wrote "or running all of your data including WiFi through something that can see the traffic being used by every device, and throttle data use so you can control burn rates"

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What devices can track incoming data?  I assume a router.  

I looked at my router (AX3000 4-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router) but don't see any functionality like that (or I may not understand what I am looking for).  

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@Jojo999​  You're close with a Modem and WiFi Router combo.  The Router just doesn't have the features you want.  Commercial gear does everything.  It's also really expensive and overkill for a house.  So are consumer routers with traffic shaping capability.

You can buy a firewall appliance.  You can also put a Linux box in the middle between the modem and router to intercept the traffic and there is a lot of open source software to track network use and do the traffic shaping.  There's a learning curve.  There are also pre-made free distributions like pFsense community edition and OPNsense specifically for this task, with a nice point and click interface.  Then you'll see everything and be able to control everything. Take a look at the hardware requirements.  A retasked junk PC or cheap refurb PC with a tiny hard drive works just fine for this. 

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@Jojo999​ This is the part you want to do:  https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/shaping.html

For hardware, an intel i3/i5 is plenty.  If you really want to get into traffic analysis more memory is better.  8G is good.  You'll need two Ethernet ports, but Ethernet cards are cheap.

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@flatlander3​ - This all sounds like overkill for my purposes and I don't have a spare computer laying around anyway.  I looked for router replacement firmware but this router is too new and there is nothing available.  I've heard some consumer routers have this functionality, so might look into a replacement router.

Ideally, one would think that Comcast would give us this info, which they should have, since they know what device is requesting the data.  

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@Jojo999 it looks like @flatlander3 has given you soe fantastic information about managing your network. I use an Xfinity gateway and I'm not even able to see how much data each individual device uses. The benefit I find with my Xfinity modem is being able to create a profile for each member of my home and assign their devices to that profile. It also lets me know when new devices have connected and if I don't recognize one I can pause it. I've got kids so being able to pause their devices at night, so they aren't streaming music all night has helped us immensely. 

Would you consider changing to an Xfinity modem for those benefits? If not then the only thing we are able to recommend is the unlimited data option, or for you to change your network name/password to make sure that you don't have anyone else accessing your internet. 

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2 years ago

modem and issue similar - https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast_Xfinity/comments/1623fwu/exceeded_your_monthly_data_usage_plan_but_router/

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@user_e21916​ - Looks like a lot of of others with this problem.  This post is interesting at the URL you pointed to:

grootdoos1
15 hr. ago
I posted this exact same issue a week ago. I think I have is solved although no thanks to Xfinity. Seems like I did all the things you are doing to try figure it out. Anyway my issue started a few months ago when they raised my speed from 800mb to 1G. So last week I lowered it to 400mb and wouldn't you know that my usage dropped in half literally the next day. So my advice is to cut back on your speed and see what happens.

I will be filing an FCC complaint and a complaint with the CA Attorneys General office to request an investigation of Comcast's lack of data consumption tools for its users and or outright thievery.

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How did this reddit user see his data consumption on a daily basis?

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2 years ago

I spent over an hour on the phone today getting shuffled from one Comcast department to another.  All tried to either upsell me on an unlimited data plan or switch to a Comcast monthly rental modem.  When I inquired as to how to cut my 800mbs speed in half to 400mbs to see if that had any affect on data usage, as per the Reddit post above, I was told that since I was on a promotional plan (right, $70/month for 800mbs isn't a promotion!) that I would lose the promotional rate, have to pay a termination fee and then would have to pay MORE for the degrade to a lower speed!  [lol]

Comcast employees do everything possible to box in customers w/o helping.

There doesn't seem to be any interest on Comcast's part to actually technically investigate the huge number of people complaining about their accounts suddenly using much more data than previously while they didn't change their internet habits.

[Edited: Solicitation]

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2 years ago

Since I have not heard anything form Comcast on this problem, I filed my FCC complaint on Tuesday.  Didn't take long at all. [Edited: Solicitation]. I also spoke with a customer service person at the FCC.  She explained that the they will definitely be in contact with upper management at Comcast.

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@Jojo999 Good morning! I can see how this would be alarming, and I definitely want to assist you in getting the answers you need to your concerns. I'm happy to take a look into your ticket, and provide you with any updates we have. To begin, can you please send a Direct Message with your name, and service address? 

 

Click "Sign In" if necessary
Click the "Direct Messaging" icon at the top of the page (looks like a text bubble)
Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon
Type "Xfinity Support" in the "To:" line and select "Xfinity Support" from the drop-down list which appears. The "Xfinity Support" graphic replaces the "To:" line
Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window
Press Enter to send it

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Why do I have to go jump through hoops and offline to get support through "Direct messaging"?  Just address the question here!

If Comcast wants to bill for data usage, then the company needs to provide the user with device reports showing which devices consumed data and how much they consume(d) , on a daily basis over the past 12 months.  This is all that I am looking for.

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@Jojo999​ - Closing out my FCC complaint.

[Edited: "Solicitation"]  While the FCC DOES make Comcast respond to complaints, the response delivered can be anything at all and is worthless.

In this case, Comcast contended that they are such a [Edited: "Inflammatory"] managed, technically [Edited: "Inflammatory"] company, that they did not have detailed statistics available on customer data usage and by device ID.  They could not show daily usage to customers.  Which, having worked 40 years in technology, I can say is bogus.  They certainly have this data but they just don't have it formatted for delivery to customers.

The FCC was apparently happy that Comcast responded and closed out the complaint as addressed. 

Perhaps the next administration will reconstitute the FCC and make them oversee complaints better.

I will be voting with my feet once my contract is up.

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2 years ago

I received a call last month from xfinity about hitting my data limit. I asked him how many more days were in my billing cycle & he said 1 & I said ok...no need to upgrade. Got a message

this month saying I am over for data use again. Checked my data use tables & it appears I'm over. But I was nowhere near over last month when they reached out so now I'm left to 

think Xfinity is simply trying to get us all to upgrade. Super annoying.

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Hi there @user_eym09c!  Thanks so much for taking the time to voice your concerns with your internet and data usage.  We are so glad to hear from you and are more than happy to assist in ensuring your concerns are addressed.  So that we can do so, please feel free to create a post detailing your issue so that we can get to work on this for you. 😉

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