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Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 8:15 PM

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CM2050V instability after firmware upgrade

As others have mentioned, it appears that recently Xfinity pushed v9 of firmware to the Netgear CM2050V modems.  Netgear's site still lists V2.01.03 as the supported version but I suppose that may just be a lag in updating the site.  The modem is now running v9.01.01.  Since the upgrade I have multiple issues of latency and disconnects per day.  

I have contacted Xfinity technical support multiple times and they are [Edited: "Inflammatory"].  They insisted on sending a technician to check the line.  He came, verified on his stats that in the last 24 hours the cable modem (only) had 1200+ disconnects.  The rest of cable (TV ,etc. had 0 issues disconnects).  He verified there was no physical issue with the signal.

Technical support doesn't even admit that firmware upgrades are handled by Xfinity.  Netgear says issues must be addressed by Xfinity.  Xfinity says the issue must be addressed by Netgear.

The simple solution that I suspect would solve the issue is to downgrade back to the stable version but I cannot do this and no one is even willing to admit that is possible.

Below is a modem diagnostic of one of the instances of connectivity issue.

Cable Diagnostic

Status: Poor

Action:
[Partial Service]
If the Partial Service mode does not go away within a few hours (Click the Refresh button after each step):
1) Make sure the coaxial cable is tightly connected.
2) Remove any unnecessary splitters.
3) Replace any required ones.
4) Contact your service provider for troubleshooting help.

CM Status: Good

Downstream Status: Poor

    Partial Service: Poor
    Cable modem is in partial service mode. Your service provider might be under maintenance. Most of the time it won't affect your traffic and will automatically clear when work is complete.

    Downstream Power Level: Good

    Downstream SNR Level: Good

Upstream Status: Good

    Upstream Power Level: Good


Current Time: Tue Nov 21 15:34:25 2023

Startup Procedure
Acquire Downstream Channel: 543000000 Hz  Locked
Connectivity State:          OK       Operational
Boot State:                  OK       Operational
Security:                   Enabled   BPI+
IP Provisioning Mode:       Honor MDD   IPv6 only


Downstream Bonded Channels (Partial Service)
Channel LockedStatus Modulation ChannelID  Frequency     Power    SNR   Correctables Uncorrectables     
      1     Locked     QAM256     20     543000000 Hz     -2     40.6     3602857     826
      2     Locked     QAM256      1     417000000 Hz     -1.7     40.6     153405     1845
      3     Locked     QAM256      2     423000000 Hz     -1.8     40.6     196357     1684
      4     Locked     QAM256      3     429000000 Hz     -1.8     40.5     176913     1544
      5     Locked     QAM256      4     435000000 Hz     -1.9     40.5     157622     1419
      6     Locked     QAM256      5     441000000 Hz     -2.2     40.5     150110     1368
      7     Locked     QAM256      6     447000000 Hz     -2.3     40.4     147506     1031
      8     Locked     QAM256      7     453000000 Hz     -2.6     40.3     156174     660
      9     Locked     QAM256      8     459000000 Hz     -2.8     40.3     162987     709
     10     Locked     QAM256      9     465000000 Hz     -2.8     40.2     161298     578
     11     Locked     QAM256     10     471000000 Hz     -2.8     40.2     178635     447
     12     Locked     QAM256     11     477000000 Hz     -2.8     40.2     217059     390
     13     Locked     QAM256     12     483000000 Hz     -2.8     40.2     298011     371
     14     Locked     QAM256     13     489000000 Hz     -2.7     40.1     499347     366
     15     Locked     QAM256     14     495000000 Hz     -2.6     40.1     2189136     392
     16     Locked     QAM256     15     507000000 Hz     -2.4     40.3     837498     443
     17     Locked     QAM256     16     513000000 Hz     -2.3     40.3     851484     465
     18     Locked     QAM256     17     519000000 Hz     -2.1     40.4     1148721     530
     19     Locked     QAM256     18     525000000 Hz     -1.9     40.5     1854560     905
     20     Locked     QAM256     19     531000000 Hz     -1.8     40.5     7507820     950
     21     Locked     QAM256     21     549000000 Hz     -2     40.5     3078475     895
     22     Locked     QAM256     22     555000000 Hz     -2.3     40.5     3274929     954
     23     Locked     QAM256     23     561000000 Hz     -2.4     40.4     3450505     1041
     24     Locked     QAM256     24     567000000 Hz     -2.5     40.4     4009972     1064
     25     Locked     QAM256     25     573000000 Hz     -2.4     40.4     4448191     1087
     26     Locked     QAM256     26     579000000 Hz     -2.3     40.4     5144046     1214
     27     Locked     QAM256     27     585000000 Hz     -2     40.5     5854640     1379
     28     Locked     QAM256     28     591000000 Hz     -1.7     40.6     6526046     1305
     29     Locked     QAM256     29     597000000 Hz     -1.2     40.6     7136586     1446
     30     Locked     QAM256     30     603000000 Hz     -0.8     40.7     7728517     1420
     31     Locked     QAM256     31     609000000 Hz     -0.6     40.8     8556730     1378
     32     Locked     QAM256     32     615000000 Hz     -0.5     40.8     9581736     1514

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel   LockedStatus  ChannelType ChannelID   SymbolRate        Frequency       Power     
      1       Locked       ATDMA      4       5120 Ksym/sec       35600000 Hz       41.8 dBmV
      2       Locked       ATDMA      2       5120 Ksym/sec       22800000 Hz       41.3 dBmV
      3       Locked       ATDMA      3       5120 Ksym/sec       29200000 Hz       41.0 dBmV
      4       Locked       ATDMA      1       5120 Ksym/sec       16400000 Hz       41.0 dBmV
      5       Locked       ATDMA      5       2560 Ksym/sec       40400000 Hz       42.8 dBmV
      6       Locked       ATDMA      6       2560 Ksym/sec       10400000 Hz       42.8 dBmV
      7       Not Locked       Unknown      0       0       0       0.0
      8       Not Locked       Unknown      0       0       0       0.0

Downstream OFDM Channels
Channel   LockedStatus  ProfileID  ChannelID    Frequency       Power       SNR/MER    ActiveSubcarrier    Unerror    Correctable   Uncorrectable
      1     Locked     0 ,1 ,2 ,3     193     722000000 Hz     -0.52 dBmV     40.0 dB     1108 ~ 2987     446897319     293372641     83348428
      2     Not Locked     0      0     0 Hz     0 dBmV     0 dB     0 ~ 4095     0     0     0

Upstream OFDMA Channels
Channel   LockedStatus    ProfileID    ChannelID    Frequency       Power
      1     Not Locked     0      0     0 Hz     0 dBmV
      2     Not Locked     0      0     0 Hz     0 dBmV

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6 Messages

1 year ago

Forgot to include that I was told my "levels" were good but seeing correctable and uncorrectable errors as mentioned above.

I'm quite sure that I disconnected everything but a direct connection to the modem and computer directly to the modem with similar results, but will once again go through the process.

My bigger concern is losing a second modem to a failed update OR a sudden removal from the approved list AFTER my purchase and forced to the RENTAL modem option.

I'm ultimately a decent customer, paying for a speed tier and settling for "good enough" speed, as opposed to the tier I'm subscribed to, rather than continually go through this to end back at the same place.

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Good evening @AudioDave, and thank you for reaching out to our Communities team, we're sorry to hear about your connection issues. Our team will be happy to help troubleshoot further. To get started, can you please send us a Direct Message with your first and last name along with the service address on the account? To send a "Direct Message" ("Private") message: Click "Sign In" if necessary

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2 Messages

1 year ago

I'm running a Nighthawk CM2050V modem which was on 2.01.03 to start. My internet speed package is 1200/40.

2.01.03 I got up to 1400/40 and it worked well (for 2 1/2 years)

9.01.01 I did get 1400/40 and it also worked pretty well.

Since Xfinity rolled back to 2.01.03 I get a littler slower speed but the download test is slow to build the full speed.

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19 Messages

1 year ago

I own Netgear Nighthawk CM2050V. Everything worked fine and I have been getting consistent download speeds of 930+ since I last checked on December 21. Today, December 24, things were funky so I rebooted my modem and router - as always, I ran a speed test - It was only 25 down - quite a loss from my "normal" speeds!! I rebooted over and over without improvement. Thinking that perhaps my router (Asus RT-AX88U) could be the problem, I attached my desktop directly to the modem and still had the extremely slow speeds. I did the Comcast troubleshooter, and it found no problems. I finally got through to an actual person, Michelle, who was puzzled about the loss of speed. During the time on the phone, I googled and found a lot of information on the Netgear site that described my experience perfectly - others are having the same problem. I concluded that the firmware was likely the issue and then I came upon some notes I took when I was having event log warnings (RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6db Below the value corresponding to the top of DRW...) in October and the firmware was V9.01.0 - it is now V2.01.03. Clearly there has been a firmware "update" from Comcast recently. Now the modem is almost unusable.

What can I do? I would appreciate any help or advice anyone can give me. Thank you so much.

Merry Christmas.

Kathy

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Good evening @user_kbg113, and thank you for reaching out on our Community forums regarding your modem issues, we hope you had a wonderful holiday. We appreciate you providing us with the detailed background information regarding rebooting your modem and what you found on the Netgear site. We are sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues with the firmware. To confirm, are you still experiencing issues with your connection? 

 

 

 

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6 Messages

1 year ago

I suppose I should throw my hat into the ring as well. I have a CM2050V, but downstream of that is a Unifi Dream Machine Pro which in part is used to analyze my overall network connectivity. In the UDM Pro's GUI, there is a visualization of the last 24 hours of internet connectivity, which is a colored bar showing status. Ideally this would be all green. However, I have a mostly green bar with interspersed yellow spots, which indicate high latency (or possibly subtle connection loss), and one or two brief red spots, indicating a complete loss of connectivity. It is quite intermittent as there is no visible pattern in the frequency or duration of the events. If I can see this data on my side, there is no excuse that Comcast wouldn't know about it on their end. It would seem that the new firmware is simply unstable and not ready for release yet, but was pushed out anyway.

Comcast trying to pass the buck off to Netgear if they are the ones who have pushed firmware to users' devices without prior warning is unacceptable. What is equally unacceptable is the way that Comcast's idea of damage control is to double down on the claims, redirect users in an open forum to a 1:1 with their notoriously inadequate customer service, censor legitimate criticism, offer to replace the malfunctioning equipment with a stock modem that will incur additional rental fees, and insist on wasting everyone's time (several months to fix a bug??) rather than simply doing the easy thing as others have mentioned: roll back the firmware. Why this is beyond the comprehension of one of the largest ISPs in the US is ridiculous.

There is a reason why I purchased this modem to begin with. It is because I do not trust Comcast. I do not trust that a standard issue Comcast rental modem router is going to have an acceptable standard of quality and security. That same stock modem router also costs next to nothing for Comcast to manufacture and hand out to paying customers, yet Comcast insists that it is "rental" equipment which comes out to over a hundred dollars in an additional expense over the course of less than a year. Sorry, but I refuse to "own nothing and be happy" as the saying goes.

I was also under the impression that since I purchased my own modem, that Comcast would not insist on remotely updating the firmware on MY DEVICE without prior notification. Had nothing bad occurred due to the sheer lack of incompetence on display, I never would have noticed. My firmware was running just fine without the meddling. I'm inclined to trust Netgear's word over Comcast's on this particular issue as well, simply because of Comcast's track record of keeping their word. It's bad enough to have an arbitrary 1TB data cap imposed on me several years ago (which Comcast was fined for by the FCC for failing to notify customers in advance).

The most unfortunate part in all of this is that Comcast has done everything in their power to stamp out competition, and increase prices on their products and services without much to show for it. Comcast catches enough bad PR over their poor customer service that one would think the wise move would be reinvesting that money back into their company, instead of outsourcing to call centers in India with people who can barely speak English just to exploit the lower or nonexistent minimum wage. It's entirely possible however that their dominance in the market removes any incentive to actually improve their services. It will not get better either since startup competitors tend to be immediately bought out or smothered in frivolous lawsuits. I wonder who would do that?

I would be very disappointed (but not surprised) to see parts of this censored for being """"inflammatory"""". I suppose it would be inflammatory for the very sensitive people at Comcast who do not like their customers discussing any of the myriad concerns about even the bare minimum expectations based on the amount of money that we all pay each month. My bill is well into the hundreds for not even being a business class connection. It's not so much a choice either since Comcast is the de facto best provider in my area. Which itself is a back handed compliment.

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@user_zufqpk Good morning! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with our Community Forums Team. Anytime our services and equipment isn't working as it should is frustrating. We appreciate your loyalty over the years, and I would be delighted to take a look into your billing, and see if have something that is more budget friendly, along with some options for your modem. To get started, can you please send a Direct Message with you name and service address? 

 

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I am not interested in sending a direct message to you just to suffer through basic troubleshooting for hours with no progress, because troubleshooting with individual customers will not fix the issue. The problem is clearly on your end and can be fixed remotely with a firmware rollback on my modem. Please get your higher ups to accept some responsibility for their reckless behavior and pressure them to do an RCA (root cause analysis) on this issue and get a bigger solution going that will actually affect a positive outcome for the possible millions of people who have been impacted by this serious problem.

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We would love an opportunity to work on this for you today @user_zufqpk.  In order for us to work on this, some things will need to be completed on an individual level to remedy the issue.  When you are ready, we are ready to receive your message and work to get this fixed for you.  

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I work in the IT industry in case my hardware setup and knowledge on the topic didn't give it away. I have already tried every trick in the book besides manually downgrading the firmware on my modem. I can assure you that I have replaced all of my Ethernet cables and coaxial cables, rebooted my router, rebooted my modem, and run speed tests. Nothing is going to get past my diagnostic tools. I have already identified the problem to be the firmware update that Comcast themselves have pushed out. I got a specific email that the current firmware is bugged which is causing the connectivity issues.

Please just push the previous version of firmware to my modem. It was running fine before Comcast messed it up. If your current firmware still has bugs, then it needs to be fixed and signed off on by a QA team before being released to production. That was the failure on Comcast's part. It was a bad decision and your paying customers are getting shafted over it.

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That is great @user_zufqpk!  We are glad to get that done for you.  However, it can be completed at an individual level.  So whenever you are ready, we await your message so that we can get started. 

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1 year ago

I tried to upgrade from an Arris SB8200 to the Netgear CM2050v, and after ordering one, trying to activate it, returning it and getting a replacement, and not being able to activate it.  I had two different techs out, who escalated it to a visit from a higher tier tech.  We spent 4 hours with Xfinity trying to get it activated.  Was told at the end of all of this that the CM2050v really isn't compatible, even though it is one of the only 2 third party modems approved by xfinity for use with my tier plan.  It is sad that they allow it to remain on the approved list.  The other option tops out at 900 mbps, and isn't an option. 

2 Messages

1 year ago

I just updated my drivers for my Ethernet controller and tweaked the advanced settings.

Since this I no longer have a lag when I check the Internet speed using Ookla App in Windows 11.

Could also be less traffic since today is a holiday.

I'm back over 1400/40 yea!

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204 Messages

1 year ago

@user_kal 

I thought I was seeing lower speeds after the rollback but after a little more testing I think it's actually just speedtest.xfinity.com not working quite optimally or something else in Comcast's network and not on my line.  The Area IV, IL (Chicago area) speed test server seems to be a little slow, meaning it gets beat by speedtest.net and Google speed test.

Here's what I just got on a 1200/35 plan with a CM2050V.  I've been seeing results like this the last few weeks:

Xfinity:  1282.2/39.8

Speedtest.net:  1436.39/41.99

Google: 1438.2/42.00

4 Messages

1 year ago

As many others have indicated in this forum thread, the Netgear CM2050V (on the list of Xfinity compatible modems for my service tier) firmware update pushed out by Comcast/Xfinity, has turned out to be an epic fail. I find myself having to reboot my modem, or re-sign into my network in order to restore streaming service on my LG OLED smart tv at least 6-10 times a day! I already went through the suggested solution of contacting Xfinity support, having my signal and modem checked, having a service technician come out and confirm signal and speeds are all good. But still the problem persists. Quite frankly I’m really done dealing with Xfinity/Comcast’s so-called customer service!!! While this modem continues to be displayed on the recommended modem list, it is clearly not compatible any longer thanks to Xfinity/Comcast recent firmware push. I specifically purchased this expensive modem as it was the only one that offered voice to support my full services. I didn’t want to have to pay Xfinity to rent their modem as I feel the $215/month I already pay them is enough … it’s the principle of the thing you see. As if that isn’t enough, I received an email yesterday from Xfinity informing me they have upped my speeds yet again and I should now purchase a newer modem to keep up with the full capabilities of my service. They suggest I either do that, or reduce my plan speeds. I’ve been left with few options. According to Xfinity I can continue to suffer constant connectivity issues with my CM2050V modem while I wait for netgear to fix the problem that Xfinity/Comcast introduced, which, they inform me could take several months - no firm projected date. Or, second option, purchase yet another new modem and toss my $300 CM2050V modem in the trash, no guarantees that three months from now that one will continue to be compatible since Xfinity doesn’t take any responsibility for 3rd Party devices. Or, third option, rent an Xfinity Gateway from them. Seems rather self serving to me. I’ve been a loyal customer since 2012, and this is how I’m treated. Anyone want to bet on what kind of response I receive from Xfinity after this? I bet it will start off with a “sincere” apology, followed by directions to click on the chat icon in the upper right corner (which incidentally does not appear in the upper right corner on my iphone for whatever reason) and initiate the same process all over again. The definition of insanity- to continue to do the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome. Almost reminds me of Groundhog Day, except Bill Murray eventually got it right!

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@user_1tgol9 I would be frustrated as well if I was in your situation. You would want to visit the link: https://mydeviceinfo.xfinity.com/ to check on additional compatible modems if you are thinking about changing modems. As long as the modem is a modem/ router combination you would not need to get separate equipment. I want to let you know that there are great benefits to using our Xfinity modem https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/why-rent-wireless-gateway. I would be happy to review your account for savings if available to assist with the additional cost of having our Gateway. This would mean you would have to send us a message so that we keep your account secure. Here is a link: https://www.xfinity.com/learn/offers with our current promotions if you wanted to take a look. Just make sure you are logged on to your account to see the promotions available for your account. If you feel more comfortable and would like to call, you can contact Xfinity by calling 1-800-266-2278.

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Seems like we just go round and round. I viewed your so-called “deals”, there was nothing available to me that would give me my same level of viewing choices, speed, and voice. Not that I ever use the voice part as I mostly just get spam and fraud calls on that line. But, it would cost me more and require me to sign a new contract to drop my voice services. I already have Xfinity Mobile as well. As you can see from the reply from Xfinity, they still want me to rent their modem/router and toss my current user-owned modem and separate user-owned router in the scrap pile. What does renting their modem get me that I shouldn’t already have with my current user owned devices? Stability, well, I had that until Xfinity/Comcast pushed a firmware update. User support? Well, so far I’m not impressed if this is what Comcast/Xfinity calls support! Please tell me why is the CM2050V still on the list of recommended modems? [Edited: Language]

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@user_1tgol9 Did you view the deals online or with a customer service representative? How long ago did you check? Our packages do change on average every 30 days. 

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1 year ago

It seems like Comcast should really tell us when we can expect the firmware and upload speeds to be fixed.  I bought the CM2050V modem because it is on the approved "list," yet our upload speeds are the same.  If we know when to expect the fix and firmware upgrade, then we can decide whether to get a different modem.

Unfortunately, I relied on their "list."

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132 Messages

1 year ago

CM2050V is still on the list and is marked "recommended for 10g" so what's the next excuse? 

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Hello @rhconcepts, thank you for your interest in our Next Gen speeds, I know those are super appealing. I can't wait for my area to be upgraded 😊. Although CM2050V is listed as compatible with our Gig Extra speed tier, it is not listed or compatible with our Next Gen upload speeds. In order to see the full list of customer owned modems that are compatible, you would need to select the "All Compatible Devices" link at the bottom right of our Device Info site. Have you received an Xfinity Notification that your area has been upgraded? 

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I see none of the recommended devices for the “NextGen speed tier” cover voice. I guess that means the voice portion of my “Triple Play” package would no longer work. Yet, it would cost me more to eliminate that portion from my package. Hmmmmmm.

It wouldn’t be a huge deal as I only ever get spam and fraud calls on that line anyway. But, as I live alone, having that second line does come in handy when I can’t find where my iPhone ran off to.  ;>o

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23 Messages

1 year ago

I would like to know if the issues with the cm2050v were ever resolved.   After the mass mailing I have seen nothing else.  I was told by an agent this morning that the issue has been resolved.  Don't think so

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It has been a little better the past couple days for me, but that could just be coincidental. It definitely has not been “fixed”.

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