Visitor

 • 

4 Messages

Sunday, September 11th, 2022 1:03 AM

Closed

T2 / T3 / T4 frequent timeout errors causing modem resets

replaced cable modem in March 2022.  No problems until about July, now continuously getting T3/T4 errors and even some T2 errors which reboot modem.  Internet comes back within 2 minutes or so, but it is very annoying.

Downstream power is good, -1.5dVmV average, receive SNR is good, 37dB and higher average.  All 16 channels bonded.

Upstream is a little hot,   47dbmV and only 1 bonded channel, instead of 4 --  which leads me to think there is a signal issue on the line back TO the CMTS 

Cable is plugged directly into xfinity provided splitter which goes to the cable equipment onto the pole.   There is no other load or cable use other than the modem.  

I am happy to provide error logs and power measurements.  But this isn't a home premises problem.

Thank you.  

--Bob in Rockville, MD 

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies and is no longer visible to community members.

Oldest First
Selected Oldest First

Official Employee

 • 

3.2K Messages

4 years ago

@Bob_B Thanks so much for taking a moment out of your day to leave a post on our community forum. If you could send our team a private message with your full name, the name listed on the account (if different), and the service address associated with your account, I'd be more than happy to look into this for you.


Here are the detailed steps to direct message us: • Click "Sign In" if necessary • Click the "Peer to peer chat" icon (upper right corner of this page) • Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon • Type "Xfinity Support" in the to line and select "Xfinity Support" from the drop-down list • Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window • Press Enter to send your message

Expert

 • 

118.3K Messages

4 years ago

@BobB_Rockville @XfinityAmandaB 

Please circle back here and post any possible solutions for the issue here in the open forums so that all readers here may benefit from the exchange / info. This is in keeping with the spirit for which these public help forums were originally intended. Thank you.

Visitor

 • 

4 Messages

@EG​ 

Will do!  I am just about to reach out to the Xfinity folks with my log screenshots and what not.   Hopefully there is a satisfactory answer that does not involve a home visit.

thanks!

--BB

Expert

 • 

118.3K Messages

4 years ago

👍

Visitor

 • 

4 Messages

@EG@XfinityAmandaB 

Hey there -- so I got in touch with the Xfinity tech via DM who gave me the usual suggestions -- power cycle, check connections, replace cable, remove splitter, and rest via Xfinity website so that modem is re-provisioned.  I dutifully did all of those -- twice even -- to no substantial change.

After all that, my signal improved every so marginally -- few 1/10ths of a dB or so -- but I was already receiving 100% of my contracted service.  The cable-modem still is struggling to receive the T2/T3/T4 control signaling and the longest I have had without it auto-rebooting is 10 hours or so.   That is a good stretch, but I've also seen it reboot 3x within a span of an hour. 

I am trying to avoid a house-tech visit, because there's not much for them to do. I have the 1 cable modem, plugged into the 1 wall outlet, which goes to a single 2-way splitter Xfinity installed outside - which goes to the pole.  (The other branch of splitter is properly terminated, not just capped)

Visual inspection shows the Xfinity equipment/cables outside are old -- but not obviously damaged or loose in any way.  

My suspicion remains that this is a equipment signaling problem somewhere between my house which is at the end of the branch and the head-end unit or upstream to the NOC / SOC.  I asked the DM representative whether there is anything else to be done from their end to validate the control signalling is not working, since a first-tech visit will likely just have to result in a separate call for the cherry picker to inspect the pole equipment.   

I have attached my recent screenshots here - showing the signaling - and then the even logs immediately thereafter.  

And yes - I still only have 1 bonded channel upstream - 4 will appear briefly upon reboot - with SNR in spec - but within a minute, they will dissapear and only 1 upstream channel remains.  If anybody else has thoughts, I am happy to entertain them.... a house visit throws work and school schedules out of whack...but if it needs to be done, so be it. 

--BB

[Image Removed: "Personal Information"]
[Image Removed: "Personal Information"]

(edited)

Visitor

 • 

4 Messages

3 years ago

@EG 

Sorry it took so long but finally have resolution to this problem - and hopefully some advice for anybody else with sporadic outages and CMTS T2/T3/T4 errors.

BLUF - Xfinity replaced the 10+ year old cable from the pole to my house and grounded the new connections.  Problems resolved.   Downstream signal strength went up, upstream signal stabilized across all four channels, not a single forced modem reboot over 3 days now (72+ hours uptime.  Previously it reset every 2 hours or so.)

The Long Long Long Story:    

Replaced modem in March, no problems until June-ish, and over last 6 months modem resets happened more frequently for no apparent external reason (good and bad weather, day and night, hot and cold, etc).    Removed, replaced, and capped all unused connectors, only had one active drop in house and one 2-1 splitter outside.   Log files show headend CMTS synch  problems - T2/T3/T4 errors every 10 minutes.  Downstream SNR and power are good (+1dBmV and 38dB) , but upstream was first way overpowered (57db) then less so once splitters removed (45db).  Yet only one of 4 upstream channels would lock.  Very odd.

Xfinity support would not help over phone, only reboot modem and say "internet is working now" -- yes I know.  But it goes out randomly, and only for 2 min, so I can't exactly call when it's out.    Xfinity live chat similarly unhelpful.   

The best support was from THIS forum via DM/private message channels.  The xfinity techs HERE reviewed my signal log screenshots  and acknowledged the outside of house problem -- huzzah!!!   

But, they still required an at home visit to diagnose.   Boooooo.   I didn't get to it until just last week.   Made an appointment and the very next day get phone call from "advanced technical support".   They tried to CANCEL my appointment because they saw the internet was working.  Yes it is, right now, but it goes out!   So I had to convince them to keep the appointment on.  Grrrrr.   They did not understand my technical description either - not very advanced.

So.  My spouse is stuck waiting at home but the tech arrives within appointment window (yay).   Looks around (ok).  And declares my 10+ year old drop from street is old, degraded, and needs to be replaced (yup).  But they can't do it until I trim the trees (uh, whaaaaaat?).   Tech leaves and auto-schedules another appointment for later the week.   Of note - the trees do NOT touch the cable.  They were close, but not within even wind blowing distance.  Fine though -- I get the pole-cutter to trim around the cables.  No excuses for next tech.

My spouse again has to wait at home, however, the follow up appointment was WAY late which was VERY upsetting.  The scheduled window was 10a-12p.  No word until 1155a that "tech is running late".  I had to work xfinity call support to get a representative to call dispatch at 1220p to see what status is.  Keep in mind my spouse is still stuck home and cannot work.   Dispatch promised tech will be "at house by 2p".   Great.  Entire work day wasted.  No offering of any compensation or apology for blowing through TWO windows (10-12 and 12-2).  We are very upset.

The tech finally arrived, with the work order, replaced drop cable AND splitter -- placed  a shielded coupler on cable to house -- and grounded it to utility box nearby.

That seems to have done trick.  Wish I did this months ago.  Also wish I knew of "tree" issue so first tech could drop next cable.  Either way - this ends the saga for now.

Final advice -- cables degrade.  Also check your grounding (green simple piece of wire).  These might be good place to diagnose before spending $ on equipment and time on house calls.  I did not expect the signaling to clear up so cleanly.  Yet here we are.  :)

forum icon

New to the Community?

Start Here