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Slow / No Internet due to intermittent degraded signal to cable modem (SB8200)
I have gigabit internet.
When it works - its very good ( tests from a (wired) ethernet connected PC )

The Blue Docsis 3.1 light is on the modem,
and the Signal looks like

Notice flat top of signal at between -50 and -55dBM between ~ 100MHz and 770MHz
However
intermittently (e.g. now)
The speed internet connection becomes unusable
- with no changes at my end - So implicitly it's something upstream of me
e.g. (now)

the Docsis 3.1. blue light goes out, the upstream and downstream lights start to blink
and the signal has degraded to something like

Q: What Causes this ?
Q: What Can I do about this?
rebooting the modem ( either locally or by the Xfinity App ) does nothing to change the poor internet / signal
I just have to wait it out until it changes ...
Is there anything else I can do to help diagnose the problem or get Xfinity to solve the issue
I have status / error log snapshots from the modem - but they only confirm the input signal has degraded.
I live in an apartment if that changes anything.
Thanks in advance.
GrahameZZ
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4 years ago
here is the current signal at lower resolution for a better image
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EG
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4 years ago
What do the modem's signal stats look like ? Try getting them here; http://192.168.100.1 or here http://10.0.0.1
Please post the *Downstream Power Level*, the *Upstream Power Level*, and the *SNR* (Signal to Noise Ratio) numbers.
What is the exact make and model number of the modem ?
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GrahameZZ
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4 years ago
The Cable modem is an Arris SB8200
As described below
Product Information
The information below describes the current state and status of different cable modem elements.
The Current (BAD) Signal strengths are
The status listed show the connection state of the cable modem. They are used by your service provider to evaluate the operation of the cable modem.
Current System Time: Thu Oct 14 10:15:47 2021
Compare this with a previously (GOOD) capture of
Connection
The status listed show the connection state of the cable modem. They are used by your service provider to evaluate the operation of the cable modem.
Startup Procedure
Procedure
Status
Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel
531000000 Hz
Locked
Connectivity State
OK
Operational
Boot State
OK
Operational
Configuration File
OK
Security
Enabled
BPI+
DOCSIS Network Access Enabled
Allowed
Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID
Lock Status
Modulation
Frequency
Power
SNR/MER
Corrected
Uncorrectables
24
Locked
QAM256
531000000 Hz
2.1 dBmV
41.0 dB
0
0
17
Locked
QAM256
483000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.9 dB
0
0
18
Locked
QAM256
489000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.8 dB
0
0
19
Locked
QAM256
495000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.7 dB
0
0
20
Locked
QAM256
507000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.8 dB
0
0
21
Locked
QAM256
513000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.9 dB
0
0
22
Locked
QAM256
519000000 Hz
2.1 dBmV
41.0 dB
0
0
23
Locked
QAM256
525000000 Hz
2.2 dBmV
41.1 dB
0
0
25
Locked
QAM256
537000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.8 dB
0
0
26
Locked
QAM256
543000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.8 dB
0
0
27
Locked
QAM256
549000000 Hz
2.1 dBmV
40.9 dB
0
0
28
Locked
QAM256
555000000 Hz
2.1 dBmV
40.9 dB
0
0
29
Locked
QAM256
561000000 Hz
2.2 dBmV
41.0 dB
0
0
30
Locked
QAM256
567000000 Hz
2.0 dBmV
40.8 dB
0
0
31
Locked
QAM256
573000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.7 dB
0
0
32
Locked
QAM256
579000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.6 dB
0
0
33
Locked
QAM256
585000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.7 dB
0
0
34
Locked
QAM256
591000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.6 dB
0
0
35
Locked
QAM256
597000000 Hz
1.9 dBmV
40.6 dB
0
0
36
Locked
QAM256
603000000 Hz
1.8 dBmV
40.5 dB
0
0
37
Locked
QAM256
609000000 Hz
1.6 dBmV
40.3 dB
0
0
38
Locked
QAM256
615000000 Hz
1.5 dBmV
40.1 dB
0
0
39
Locked
QAM256
621000000 Hz
1.4 dBmV
40.1 dB
0
0
40
Locked
QAM256
627000000 Hz
1.5 dBmV
40.0 dB
0
0
41
Locked
QAM256
633000000 Hz
1.3 dBmV
39.9 dB
0
0
42
Locked
QAM256
639000000 Hz
1.1 dBmV
39.8 dB
0
0
43
Locked
QAM256
645000000 Hz
1.0 dBmV
39.6 dB
0
0
44
Locked
QAM256
651000000 Hz
1.1 dBmV
39.7 dB
0
0
45
Locked
QAM256
657000000 Hz
1.5 dBmV
40.0 dB
0
0
46
Locked
QAM256
663000000 Hz
1.7 dBmV
40.1 dB
0
0
47
Locked
QAM256
669000000 Hz
1.7 dBmV
40.1 dB
0
0
48
Locked
Other
688000000 Hz
2.1 dBmV
37.8 dB
29473784
0
Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel
Channel ID
Lock Status
US Channel Type
Frequency
Width
Power
1
7
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
10400000 Hz
3200000 Hz
43.0 dBmV
2
8
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
16400000 Hz
6400000 Hz
43.0 dBmV
3
9
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
22800000 Hz
6400000 Hz
43.0 dBmV
4
10
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
29200000 Hz
6400000 Hz
42.0 dBmV
5
11
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
35600000 Hz
6400000 Hz
42.0 dBmV
6
12
Locked
SC-QAM Upstream
40400000 Hz
3200000 Hz
43.0 dBmV
Current System Time: Tue Oct 12 08:57:36 2021
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EG
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4 years ago
WOW ! Those first downstreams are horribly out of spec !! Something intermittent is definitely going on !
You can see if anything below helps / applies but you might want to have a tech out to investigate / correct this issue !
In an effort to try to obtain better connectivity, check to see if there are there any excess/unneeded coax cable splitters in the line leading to the modem that can be eliminated/re-configured. Any splitters that remain should be high quality and cable rated for 5-1000 MHz, bi-directional, and no gold colored garbage from Radio Shack, Home Depot, Target, etc. Splitters should be swapped with known to be good / new ones to test.
Also check the coax cable for any damage such as cuts, nicks, kinks, sharp bends, etc.
If there aren't any unneeded splitters that can be eliminated and if your coax wiring setup can't be reconfigured so that there is a single two-way splitter connected directly off of the drop from the street / pole with one port feeding the modem and the other port feeding the rest of the house/equipment with additional splits as needed and you've checked all the wiring and fittings for integrity and tightness and refresh them by taking them apart then check for and clean off any corrosion / oxidation on the center wire and put them back together again, then perhaps it's best to book a tech visit to investigate and correct.
Bear in mind that if the premises facing techs can not find or fix a problem at your home, it is they who are responsible for escalating it to their line / network / maintenance dept. techs. The problem may lie beyond your home in the local neighborhood infrastructure somewhere but it is their S.O.P. to start at the home.
Good luck with it !
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GrahameZZ
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4 years ago
I would agree, that is the case.
I've read all the usual information about cable health / sanity checks - and all the things I can control are good -
as evidenced by the speed / signal strength when things are good.
How do I get a technician (onsite?) to confirm the bad signal strength so they can can escalate things / diagnose things upstream?
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GrahameZZ
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4 years ago
Progress.
Got on a live chat with an agent
Confirmed details.
Reboot of modem made no difference.
From Agent,
http://speedtest.xfinity.com/
Please visit this link and share the result of speed test
From You,
5.2 Mbps down 20.9 Mbps up 19 ms latency , IPV6 , San Jose CA on ethernet wired PCFrom Agent,
Thanks for confirming
From Agent,
An automated check has identified the Docsis Health is Red
Red - Some parts of the service or equipment failed the Device Health Check, and they might be interrupting the service.
From Agent,
I want to let you know that modem is not working fine
From Agent,
It means the signals are also interrupting
From Agent,
I need to raise the issue and involve the advance team in this to resolve this
From Agent,
I am also sending a tech at your place to check and resolve this'
So I have a tech coming in a few days. Lets see what happens.
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EG
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O/k good luck with it ! And please post back with how things turn out.
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GrahameZZ
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4 years ago
I will let you know how things go.
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GrahameZZ
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Update:
Success!
Three main things have happened
Lets break that down in detail, a post at a time
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GrahameZZ
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I had a visit from an xfinity engineer
After speaking to the agent, on chat, a service call was scheduled for 9-11am on Sunday Oct 17th.
Various emails / texts / notifications on the lead up to the visit telling me what I needed to do, confirm the visit etc.
The Engineer duly arrived, inspected my setup, took some measurements, and confirmed the situation.
I was not aware of these - so we could not investigate further.
But he agreed there was an upstream issue, and would start the internal process to investigate / escalate having confirmed my situation..
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EG
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Thanks for circling back with that info ! Please do so again with the future outcome. Thank you !
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GrahameZZ
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Apartment Cabling
The Apartment complex used RG-59 cable from when it was built in the 1970's, the Engineer said they would use RG-6 Today.
details:
https://thejonspencerbluesexplosion.com/rg6-cable-vs-rg59/
https://sewelldirect.com/blogs/learning-center/what-is-the-difference-between-rg59-and-rg6
The TL:DR; is RG59 was fine for Analog Cable TV, but RG6 is preferred for high speed internet.
However, having said that, in my case it is "good enough" - given the speeds I have been getting when everything works.
I spoke to the apartment complex maintenance guys, and yes, out building does have an equipment room,
where the cable enters the building and is split up for the individual apartments
Identified my apartment cable (at least they are labeled), checked the connections were sound, but I'm not touching that!
It comes in via this initially ( 4 way split ?)
and then is split further by (8 ways ?)
Meanwhile I found where the cable comes in to the apartment
Its a blank unlabeled panel near the fuse box. Unless someone told you, you would not know what lies within!
A Regal RDCUV10-6 Splitter!
Set up for cable TV in the lounge , with a 6dB tap to the bedroom / office.
Guess which run I used for the cable modem?
So I disconnected the splitter, and used a coupler to directly connect the incoming signal cable (red) to the cable run to the cable modem - as that is the only connection I use.
Hey presto 6dB more signal.
Which moved it ( in failure mode) from "marginal" (<10 Mbps down) to "acceptable" ( enough for a reliable connection - still not full speed - but OK)
So that removed the "not working" frustration.
But from the spectrum analyzer - there were still two modes for the incoming signal
Which very much looks like bad upstream equipment (amplifier) ?
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GrahameZZ
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xfinity Replaced (what I assume was Faulty) Equipment
With the 6dB more signal, things went well until one morning (Wednesday October 27th), things stopped working, and the signal disappeared - just like a disconnection.
So I went down to the equipment room and discovered another xfinity engineer hard at work, on a large silver box, and some much thicker cables, in a "vault" below this kind of cover
He said it would be about 20 minutes.
And then everything came back, and has worked great ever since.
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GrahameZZ
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All is Well
I'm now getting great speeds
https://www.speedtest.net/result/12256050309
The Incoming Signal looks great
But more importantly , given over 2 days uptime
Look at the complete absence of Corrected ( and Uncorrectables ) in the locked QAM256 downstream bonded channels, and the healthy Power , SNR / MER values.
The status listed show the connection state of the cable modem. They are used by your service provider to evaluate the operation of the cable modem.
I am now one happy camper!
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EG
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@GrahameZZ
Pretty stats !! So glad you got it straightened out !! Happy surfing !!
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