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Second IP needed - ARRIS - SURFboard S33 with Comcast 1200Mbps Service
Hi,
A few days ago, I received notification from Comcast through e-mail stating that my current modem was not able to get advantage of the new 1200Mbps speed increase that has been enabled for customers on my current internet tear.
So I went ahead and purchased the ARRIS - SURFboard S33 and I also purchased a new Netgear Orbi RBK-852 Router (which as an extra perk has Wi-Fi6 and a 2.5Gb Ethernet Port) problem is with all this setup I have not been able to get the desired and offered 1200Mbps connection when the router is connected to the modem.
If I connect my main desktop directly to the Arris modem through its 2.5GB Ethernet port, then I get all full speed of around 1300Mbps+ in all speed tests with no problem at all. So far so good, right? Well, the problem starts when I then connect the Orbi Router to the second 1GB Ethernet port on the modem, (So the rest of the devices on my home network can get internet) it cannot get a connection at all.
The only way I can get everything connected is by connecting the router to one of the ports on the modem and then connecting EVERYTHING else to the router (Standard setup) but when I do that, then everything is limited to speeds of around 940Mbps (Of course because everything is limited to the weakest link, in this case, the router). Then what is the point of getting a new modem that supports the new speeds if to use it I can only get one device connected?
I understand that all my devices cannot get that speed because they do not have support for those speeds, but my main desktop does (it has a 10GB Network card) I only want to get the 1200Mbps on my main desktop, so that's why I wanted to get the desktop connected directly to the 2.5GB on the modem and the router to the other 1GB Port.
This modem has two Ethernet ports (which means it can provide two different IPs). According to the manufacturer's help page here, they say the following:
>>>>It is possible to connect two devices to the S33. However, the cable provider must provide an Internet IP Address to each device for Internet access. If both devices cannot connect to the Internet, contact the cable provider to request an additional Internet IP address.
According to my research on the issue, It seems I need an additional IP address from Comcast so my second Ethernet port on this modem actually works. I tried calling Comcast to see if they can provide me with a second IP address and after almost 2 hours nobody seems to know what I'm talking about and then the call got dropped. Really frustrating. :-(
I purchased this modem and router because Comcast e-mailed me saying I should get a new modem in order to get the new fast speeds of above 1Gb that they are now offering to customers who subscribe to the internet package I have.
Anybody from Comcast who can help me here? I would appreciate the help.
Thanks a lot in advance.
-Eli
KAIREWA
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3 years ago
Hi Eli
I’ve got SB8200 both WAN ports working fine until I enable Link Aggregation (LAG)on the modem, 2nd IP is lost, should you intend to do the same, let me know how it goes, I’m using ROG AXE11000 router.
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Jlavaseur
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3 years ago
So I have a asus router, I use the dual wan setup, 2 1000 Mbps Ethernet connect ions from my multi gig modem, I achieve 1400+ With just one ip
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Jlavaseur
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3 years ago
I have a asus rt-ax 86u router the thing is even with that router, you can only use the 2.5 gig port on wan or lan not both, so I just setup dual wan, both wan are 1000 Mbps and I setup the lan coming out of the router as the 2.5 port
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Jlavaseur
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3 years ago
The dual wan is setup on the router, yes you connect to the designated 2.5 gig port, that being said, the speed tests are faster, but in my daily internet activities, I don’t really get to utilize those faster speeds, 1400+ Mbps for a email.. haha
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EG
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3 years ago
@RealAct @ComcastLinda
Please post any possible solutions for the issue here in the open forums so that all readers here may benefit from the exchange / info. This is in keeping with the spirit for which these public help forums were originally intended. Thank you.
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EG
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FWIW, an additional public IP / WAN address assigned by an ISP is not needed for a LAG / LACP / Port Bonding feature to be able to function.
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RealAct
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3 years ago
Hello everyone,
@KAIREWA they refused to provide a second IP address and were of barely any help at all. The solution I found it myself, or better said "The workaround". No way I'm going to be paying $200+ per month for a second connection, nor upgrade to their 2.GB plan because that would still have the same issue I have now.
I don't think my issue is quite understood. Simply put, Comcast does not allow more than one device connected to ANY modem except theirs (more on that later). So if you, like most people in this world have more than one device in your network, and again like most people on this world have a router that ONLY has 1GB ports, then you cannot take advantage of their 1.2GB service EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SUPPORTED MODEM. If that is your case like most people, then you WILL ONLY be able to take full advantage of that 1.2GB connection if you have either a router with multiple 2GB ports or higher (so you can attach more capable devices to it). Currently, I believe there's only 2 consumer routers on the market that meet that, or only connect ONE device to that 2.5GB port on their supported modem and disconnect all your other devices from the internet.
Another way is if you have a Wi-Fi6 capable router with devices which support those speeds in a wireless manner. In my case I have a Wi-Fi6 router and 1 main desktop with a 10GB Ethernet port. I got a supported and suggested modem by Comcast with one 2.5G port and another 1GB port. Since I only have this one device that really support those speeds I wanted the second IP so I could connect the router to the 1GB port for all the rest of the devices on my home. But I wanted to connect my 1 Device with the 10GB port directly to the 2.4GB port on the modem so I could take advantage of those speeds I'm paying for.
Through my own research, I found out I could use their modem/router combo and turn off its wireless radios, then use my Orbi in Access Point mode. Now I can connect my computer directly to the Comcast XB7's 2.5GB port while connecting my Orbi to one of the other 1GB ports.
This however cannot be done with other modems, (perhaps with another modem/router combo device, not sure, but I couldn't find any Cable Modem/Router combo with 2.5GB ports).
That is the ONLY solution I have found to my particular problem. The only thing Comcast suggested was for me to pay for a second internet connection or move to a business plan, which like I said above is way more expensive for even less speed, neither is a real solution IMHO.
Their setup is dumb and frustrating for users. As more and more people join their 1.2 plan or start getting equipment with 2GB+ network cards in the future, you are going to start hearing about this type of complaints more and more, watch.
Regards
PS: Don't forget that you will also be forced to pay the rental fee for using their Modem/Router in this scenario.
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KAIREWA
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3 years ago
@jlavaseur would you please share your load balancing ratio and the DNS that you use?
The ASUS GT-AXE11000 router has an option to use the USB Connection as WAN, so I’ve ordered the dongle and is arriving tomorrow.
This way I can have Primary WAN set to WAN port and the USB port as Secondary WAN.
I’ve had WAN and 2.5GbE configured previously under dual wan but couldn’t get above 1200Mbps
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KAIREWA
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So I have tried having dual WAN setup with SB8200 modem, ASUS GT-AXE11000 router using 10’ CAT8 cables.
If someone wants to see speeds above 1Gig, they shall get a modem that has at least a multi-gig port.
Thinking of Link Aggregation on SB8200 to achieve 2Gbps, rather get the 2Gbps plan than having to spend on layer 3 switches and yet using Dual-WAN because LAG activated on modem loses second IP. Connection isn’t stable and do not recommend dual-wan for gaming enthusiasts on consumer grade routers.
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