Hi,
I see the T3 time-out every 2 hours, which causes a loss of connection. Once the restart has completed and I am reconnected, the connection is stable for another 2 hours. I see the following message in the event log after the modem comes back up:
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.0;CM-VER=3.0;
I've engaged 3 different support agents via chat:
The first support agent escalated to Tier 2 support, but I was never contacted by them.
The second support agent "changed the modem bootfile and connected me with a more stable server", and while whatever they did mostly smoothed out the latency spikes I have been seeing in PingPlotter, this did not solve the disconnects.
The third support agent suggested to contact the modem manufacturer.
The modem is cabled directly from the wall, no additional splitters. I have made no changes to networking devices or configuration, this just started happening out of the blue from what I can tell (about 6 days ago).
Connection details:
Modem/router is C7000-100NAS
Startup Procedure |
Procedure |
Status |
Comment |
Acquire Downstream Channel |
609000000 Hz |
Locked |
Connectivity State |
OK |
Operational |
Boot State |
OK |
Operational |
Security |
Enabled |
BPI+ |
IP Provisioning Mode |
Honor MDD |
honorMdd(4) |
|
|
Downstream Bonded Channels |
Channel |
Lock Status |
Modulation |
Channel ID |
Frequency |
Power |
SNR |
Correctables |
Uncorrectables |
1 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
36 |
609000000 Hz |
1.9 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
2 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
24 |
531000000 Hz |
2.4 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
3 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
25 |
543000000 Hz |
1.6 dBmV |
38.7 dB |
0 |
0 |
4 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
26 |
549000000 Hz |
1.9 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
5 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
27 |
555000000 Hz |
1.8 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
6 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
28 |
561000000 Hz |
1.7 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
7 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
29 |
567000000 Hz |
1.6 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
8 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
30 |
573000000 Hz |
1.3 dBmV |
38.8 dB |
0 |
0 |
9 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
31 |
579000000 Hz |
2.1 dBmV |
39 dB |
0 |
0 |
10 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
32 |
585000000 Hz |
2.6 dBmV |
39.1 dB |
0 |
0 |
11 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
33 |
591000000 Hz |
1.4 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
12 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
34 |
597000000 Hz |
2.3 dBmV |
39.1 dB |
0 |
0 |
13 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
35 |
603000000 Hz |
2.6 dBmV |
39 dB |
0 |
0 |
14 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
37 |
615000000 Hz |
2.1 dBmV |
39 dB |
0 |
0 |
15 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
38 |
621000000 Hz |
1.9 dBmV |
39 dB |
0 |
0 |
16 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
39 |
627000000 Hz |
1.9 dBmV |
38.9 dB |
0 |
0 |
17 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
40 |
633000000 Hz |
2.1 dBmV |
39.8 dB |
0 |
0 |
18 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
41 |
639000000 Hz |
1.5 dBmV |
39.5 dB |
0 |
0 |
19 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
42 |
645000000 Hz |
0.9 dBmV |
39.4 dB |
0 |
0 |
20 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
43 |
651000000 Hz |
1.4 dBmV |
39.4 dB |
0 |
0 |
21 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
44 |
657000000 Hz |
0.3 dBmV |
39.3 dB |
0 |
0 |
22 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
45 |
663000000 Hz |
-0.6 dBmV |
39 dB |
0 |
0 |
23 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
46 |
669000000 Hz |
-0.2 dBmV |
38.6 dB |
0 |
0 |
24 |
Locked |
QAM256 |
47 |
675000000 Hz |
-0.8 dBmV |
38.5 dB |
0 |
0 |
|
|
Upstream Bonded Channels |
Channel |
Lock Status |
US Channel Type |
Channel ID |
Symbol Rate |
Frequency |
Power |
1 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
3 |
5120 Ksym/sec |
22800000 Hz |
53 dBmV |
2 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
1 |
2560 Ksym/sec |
10400000 Hz |
54 dBmV |
3 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
2 |
5120 Ksym/sec |
16400000 Hz |
53.3 dBmV |
4 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
4 |
5120 Ksym/sec |
29200000 Hz |
52.3 dBmV |
5 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
5 |
5120 Ksym/sec |
35600000 Hz |
52.3 dBmV |
6 |
Locked |
ATDMA |
6 |
2560 Ksym/sec |
40400000 Hz |
52.3 dBmV |
7 |
Not Locked |
Unknown |
0 |
0 Ksym/sec |
0 Hz |
0.0 dBmV |
8 |
Not Locked |
Unknown |
0 |
0 Ksym/sec |
0 Hz |
0.0 dBmV |
|
On some occasions I have seen counts in the hundreds for both correctables and uncorrectables for most of the bonded downstream channels. Just not at the time I am posting this.
Could it be an issue with the modem? Or should I schedule a tech visit? I'm at a loss for what direction to go next. Disconnects every 2 hours is extremely frustrating and disruptive.
BruceW
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2 years ago
All of the upstream power levels posted are out of spec (too high), suggesting that there is most likely a poor connection between your modem and Comcast's network. Problems like this are often due to corroded coax connectors or damaged coax cable, usually in or near your home. Running the cable through a surge protector, a defective splitter, or too many splitters can cause signal problems as well. If there is an amplifier in the line make sure it's getting power.
If you want to troubleshoot this yourself, please see Internet Troubleshooting Tips.
If you can't find the problem or you'd rather have Comcast take care of it and an employee does not respond to your message here, call them at the phone number on your bill or 1-800-Comcast, or use one of the options on https://www.xfinity.com/support/contact-us/. It's not likely they can fix the problem remotely. If not, insist they send a tech out to identify the cause and correct it.
If the tech finds bad coax, splitters, amplifiers, or connections in your home (even if Comcast originally supplied them) you'll probably have to pay for the visit ($70-$100) unless you have their Service Protection Plan ( https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/service-protection-plan, closed to customers that don't already have it). If the trouble is due to a faulty Comcast rental device or anything outside your home you shouldn't be charged.
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jmsoz
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2 years ago
Hey Bruce, thanks for your helpful reply.
I did find a splitter that I forgot I put in. I have removed it and so now definitely the coax is direct from the wall to the modem. This seems to have improved the upstream power levels a bit, but I'm not exactly sure what the optimal values should be.
However even with this change, still I see the same behavior - disconnect after 2 hours:
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BruceW
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They're better, but now borderline. It's best to have them in the middle of the Internet Troubleshooting Tips range, which would be +40 to +45 dBmV. Also what do the downstream channels look like now? They should be 3 or 4 dB higher than they were with perhaps slightly better (higher) SNR, but it's always best to check after making any changes to the coax line.
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jmsoz
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2 years ago
You are pretty much spot on - downstream power increased, SNR looks to have stayed mostly the same.
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jmsoz
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2 years ago
Still T3 every 2 hours (for some reason the modem clock is 1 hour behind):
Time Priority Description
2023-6-6, 16:03:31 Critical (3) Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
2023-6-6, 16:03:31 Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
2023-6-6, 14:00:07 Critical (3) Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
2023-6-6, 14:00:07 Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
2023-6-6, 11:56:01 Critical (3) Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
2023-6-6, 11:56:01 Warning (5) MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=[REDACTED];CMTS-MAC=[REDACTED];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
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jmsoz
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2 years ago
@Xfinity Support can you please provide guidance for next steps to get this resolved please.
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EG
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@jmsoz @XfinityStephanieK
Please circle back here and post any possible solutions for the issue here in these open forums so that all readers here may benefit from the exchange / info. This is in keeping with the spirit for which these public help forums were originally intended. Thank you.
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AMD6347
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2 years ago
Having the same issue since at least fall of 2022. I was running a straight line from the service pole to my modem, no splitters. Had a tech out and they described a known issue with upstream noise somewhere in the area, which crews hadn't been able to locate. They suggested buying a newer modem, with more upstream channels, so it had more options to switch to when one went down. My modem at that time had 4, so I upgraded to one with 8. Turns out, they only use 5 to begin with. They also said my signal was calibrated for the home to have a splitter, and since I didn't, adding one would adjust my signal levels back into ranges where it wouldn't exceed the limits and drop the channels as often when the issue would occur. They installed a splitter with terminator caps on the unused positions, and replaced the lines from the service pole to my home as well. The only other object in line between their service and my modem is a MoCa filter and all cables from the exterior junction box to the modem were installed fresh by the installation tech not quite 4 years ago, with zero damage or manipulation in between.
With the new modem, a Netgear CM1000v2. I did notice improvement, but still intermittent issues. It's common around lunchtime/early afternoon, but does sometimes happen later in the day as well. The upstream light will start flashing, I lose my connection to my work VPN, causing some hazardous situations for me, professionally. Recently, it has gotten worse, similar to last fall in frequency.
I had a tech out again last week on an unrelated matter, same one actually, and had them check the noise levels, but being the wrong time of the day, they were not able to observe the issue. I've since performed a complete overhaul of my entire network, being more on top of monitoring this issue, and what I learned here, I see now that my upstream dB are also on the upper end of the range, between 45.5 and 48.5dB. I expect that when the issue arises, those may be spiking too high, and dropping channels, but I haven't been able to directly observe this on the modem yet.
I'm seeing all kinds of T3 and T4 errors on the logs, in a 16 hour period today, there were 40 instances of warnings, either:
Warning (5) Dynamic Range Window violation,
or
Warning (5) RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
and
Critical (3) Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Yesterday, when I gathered the logs from the modem, there were about 55 Entries in total, going back just over a month in range, so it seems to be happening more frequently now. Interestingly, there are numerous instances in that collection with "Time Not Established". Again, almost all of those are Critical (3), with much less Warning (5). In that collection, there's more variety, with repetitive cycles of the following type errors, with various orders each time:
Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted but was all zeros];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
REG-RSP-MP Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Dynamic Range Window violation
SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted but was all zeros];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Resetting the cable modem due to docsDevResetNow
TCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
The tech lead me to believe there would be an entire system upgrade happening in my area sometime in the next few months, which also implied the motivation to solve the issue in the area was probably low, since a lot of the equipment would be replaced, but this will cause issues for me professionally if I have to wait that long.
Since the upstream signals seem to be high in general, but the logs show both exceeding top values of dynamic range, and commanded power in excess of 6dB below the top, what's going on here?
I'd gladly provide the full logs to any xfinity representatives for review. I just need this solved. I'll install anything needed to help smooth it out further, or bring things back to the middle ranges if needed.
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EG
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2 years ago
An overall attenuator or a splitter would increase the upstream power. It works the opposite way for the downstream power. It decreases it.
The object would be to decrease the attenuation of the line thereby decreasing the upstream power. This is done by improving the line / hardware / connection quality. Removing any impairments.
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