New Motorola MT8733 listed

I have seen that there is a new Motorola MT8733 listed on the Motorola site, also on other sites for sale, currently $409. It's DOCSIS 3.1, supports up to 2.5Gbps, has 4 Ethernet ports (one is a 2.5Gb port), 2 phone lines, and WiFi 6.

I'm currently using a Netgear CM600 with Extreme Pro 800/900 and get max 820 on it, and an Arris 822G eMTA voice modem. The Netgear CM600 is connected to an Asus RT-AX86U WiFi 6 router that I purchased earlier this year, which works really well since it has 3 antennas on top.

The Motorola MT8733 is an all-in-one device, which makes me concerned, as if one part goes bad, you have to replace the entire unit. I wish they made it without the built in WiFi and could just use my current Asus router with it.

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BruceW

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Would a Netgear CM2050V work for you? It has no router component but otherwise appears to be similar to the MT8733 and is priced below $300. See https://www.xfinity.com/support/devices.

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SammyFL

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@BruceW yes, I have looked at the CM2050V since last year, and should work for me. The only thing is that since it has 1 2.5Gb Ethernet port, and my Asus router has 1 2.5Gb port (rest are 1gb) and my PC has a new 2.5Gb PCI Card. So going from the CM2050v to the Router would use the 2.5gb, and then 1gb to the PC. But if I was on the faster 1.2-1.4Gb speed tier, I'd had to also get a 2.5gb Switch, so that the router and PC would get the full gigabit+ speed.

The Motorola has all that built in, 1 2.5 Gb port that would go to my PC, and the rest are 1gb ports.

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I ended up ordering the CM2050V today while it was on sale. Hopefully it's won't be a headache replacing the CM600. Sometimes have to call it for them to change the MAC and SN

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@BruceW I got the CM2050v installed. My current internet tier is Extreme Pro and was updated last month from 800 to 900 but the fastest I could get on the CM600 modem was 830. Now I'm getting up to 1050mbps.

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@SammyFL wrote: "... I got the CM2050v installed. ... Now I'm getting up to 1050mbps."

Thanks for posting your results. Sounds good! 😉

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@BruceW Do you know about network switches? Now that I'm getting about 1050mbps for the downstream, I have the CM2050v modem (that has a 2.5gb port) connected to my Asus RT-AX86U router's 2.5gb wan port, but the router only has 1GB Lan ports connected to my PCs 2.5gb NIC card. So that means my PCs speed is about 920-950.

I bought a 2.5gb unmanaged network switch, as I thought I could connect the Switch directly to the Modem, then go from the Switch to PC and Switch to Router. But when doing that, the PC would not connect (no downstream internet but has IP address from dhcp). If I unplug the Asus wifi router from the switch and only have the PC connected to the switch, then the PC will get downstream internet. So I'm not sure why when I connect the wifi router to the switch, the switch won't connect to the PC.

I've tied about all the "fixes" online, and none of them work (use a static IP for the PCs dhcp v4). So for now I had to go back to the original setup without the switch, and just have the PC plugged into the router.

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Jlavaseur

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I have gotten 1400 Mbps WiFi with asus rt ax86u router, that router can be configured with the 2.5 port as being the wan port or lan port, not both at the same time..

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@jlavaseur yes that is true. I have the modem connected to the ax86u routers 2.5gb port, and on my laptop with Wifi6/ax can get a 2500mbps "connection link" to the router and over 1020mbps when doing a speed test. But since I'm using the 2.5 port as wan, my PC is connected to the 1gb lan ports and gets 900-950.

And if I instead have the modem connected to the routers 1gb wn port and the PC connected to the 2.5gb port, it then limits the speed to the router (about 950).

That's why I wish this router had both a 2.5gb WAN and a 2.5GB LAN port.

It's not a big deal now, but if I move to the faster Gigabit plus 1200 plan, the speeds are pushing 1400-1500 from posts that I've seen and would like to get that full speed to the router AND to the PC. That is why I thought a 2.5gb Switch would work.

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@SammyFL wrote: "I bought a 2.5gb unmanaged network switch, as I thought I could connect the Switch directly to the Modem, then go from the Switch to PC and Switch to Router. But when doing that, the PC would not connect (no downstream internet but has IP address from dhcp). If I unplug the Asus wifi router from the switch and only have the PC connected to the switch, then the PC will get downstream internet. So I'm not sure why when I connect the wifi router to the switch, the switch won't connect to the PC."

FWIW. To address that part. You would need to have an additional WAN / public IP address assigned to your connection by them in order for that configuration to be able to work. You get only one single primary IP address assigned to a residential connection. You can't hang an ethernet switch off of a straight cable modem unless you have multiple public IP's. Only one of the ports on the switch would be active.

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Jlavaseur

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I have used the dual wan mode with the router and achieved the same 1400 Mbps wired, but with with a different modem, yes I wish the router had a 2.5 g port for wan and lan

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@SammyFL wrote: "... I thought I could connect the Switch directly to the Modem, then go from the Switch to PC and Switch to Router ..."

I haven't tried that configuration, but my guess (someone please correct me if I'm wrong here!) is you'd need to have Comcast assign a 2nd IP address to you. One address would go to the router, and the other to the PC. There's an extra charge for additional IPs and they may not be available in your service area.

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Apologies for the echo @BruceW ..... I did not see your reply before I posted mine.

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@EG @jlavaseur OK, that explains it then, why the switch won't work connected direcly to the CM2050v modem. I can try the Link Aggregate on the Asus ax86u and see if I can get it to work on my PC. I saw on another post there is a new Asus router, model "rog rapture gt-ax6000" that has two 2.5gb ports, but only Newegg has it on preorder for $400, and I just spent $230 on the new CM2050v modem. If I can't get the link aggregation to work, then I (might) get the Motorola MT8733 since it does have a 2.5gb lan port.

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BruceW

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@EG wrote: "... I did not see your reply before I posted mine. ...'

The Sprinklr forums seem to have a substantial delay between the time a message is posted and the time it becomes available to the rest of the community. I know that a number of times I've reloaded a page just before hitting "Post" in an attempt to avoid being an echo, only to find out later that someone beat me to it by several minutes. It seems to just be the nature of the Sprinklr beast.

No worries EG! Especially since your post confirmed the guess I made in mine.

ETA: Apologies to the OP for this "sidebar"

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Thanks for the info ! I have noticed that several times myself Bruce.... I thought that I was going nuts ! 😮 These boards are kludgy in many ways.... Oh well..😏

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I have been trying for the past hour to to get the Asus ax86u bonding/link aggregation to work with my PC.

I have the Lan 1 and 2 ports on the router connected to the motherboards Lan 1 and 2 ports (1gb) and not using the 2.5gb pcix nic card. I enable the bonding/link aggregation on the ax86u but then only 1 of the lan ports gets a connection, so I when I do the Bridge Connection in Win 10, I'm still getting less than 1gb on speed test. I thought that doing the link aggregation on the router basically makes lan 1 and 2 act as a single 2gb port (put using both bonded together) and then in Win 10 you bridge the two connections.

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@EG I have even tried the Realtek Teaming utility and with is bonding the two lan ports, the speed is still under 1gb.

Edit: I may have got it to work.

Have to use the Realtek software to make a Team (802.3ad) with the motherboards Lan 1/2 ports. Then go into the Asus ax86u and select the Bonding/Link Aggregation there. After the modem reboots, then have to reboot the PC.

The routers internal speed test page shows 1053mbps from the local Comcast server. Going into Edge browser it shows 1000-1020mbps.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/12393821813

Edit 2: that 1000-1020 on the PC was short lived. After a reboot, it's back to 900, but I checked and the Realtek Teaming is still active (2gb) and the router's bonding is still turned on.

Edit 3: Using the Realtek Teaming along with the routers Bonding/Link Aggregation seems a bit unreliable in speed tests. Over the past 30 min I've seen it down in the 700Mb and as high as 1047Mbps

https://www.speedtest.net/result/12393837887

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SammyFL

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@jlavaseur Update, it took most of the day getting this to work right (it was working then it wasn't and has to remove drivers and reinstall).

But as of now I have the Asus ax86u with the bonding/link aggregation Enabled using port 1&2 and connected to my motherboard lan 1&2, using the Realtek Teaming software. Sometimes I see it down in the 700-800 when testing, other times in the 900, or 1000-1040. So doesn't seem super constant. I disabled the 2.5gb NIC card since I'm not using it now (was like $40 a few months ago).

I'll keep using this setup for a while and see how reliable this port bonding/teaming is.

I know that TP Link has some new routers coming out with multiple 2.5gb ports and Wifi6E (6Ghz band), which my laptop could use. So may wait and see how much those are.

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After a bit more testing, my Asus Laptop that supports WiFi 6 AX is getting pretty constant 1000-1050mbps from the Asus ax86u router (shows a link speed of 2400mbps). But the Router and PC using the Link aggregation/bonding seems to stay in the 750-850 most of the time, 900 range sometimes, and only occasionally over 1000.

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