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Monday, July 10th, 2023 6:41 PM

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iPads not backing up to cloud or updating

We have 4 iPads and none of them are backing up to the cloud or letting me do software updates. They all say poor connection even when I’m 3 feet away from the modem. The internet browser works just fine. Phones work just fine as well it just seems to be the Ipads. I even tried someone else’s internet and the iPads backed up just fine. This all started when we switched modem/router to the one provided by xfinity xfi? Any thoughts on how to resolve the issue? I’ve contacted apple

and they said it was not a device issue.

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Issue with Some Advanced Gateways Preventing Mobile Devices from Backing Up on Home WiFi Network

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1.3K Messages

2 years ago

@user_e26731 Hello, thanks for the post! Since you have one our xFi modems, I would suggest opening up the Xfinity app to check on those specific devices to make sure there aren't any firewall or other settings on that would stop them from working fully. This is great resource when it comes to xFi network settings: https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/xfi-advanced-settings. Please let us know if that helps at all. 

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2 years ago

In the same situation. Multiple iPhones and iPads that stopped back up to icloud the end of June.  Something changed on your end.  If I leave and go to a different wifi network that is not Xfinity they back up fine.  What is going on Xfinity?

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2 years ago

I’m also having the same difficulty.  All iPhones and iPads will not backup or update while on my  Xfinity network because it says there’s not a strong enough connection.  However, it works just fine on cellular or any non-Xfinity network.  In doing some searching online this seems to be an issue that’s happening to many people with the affinity modem.  It seems like something Xfinity should be looking into fixing ASAP.

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Hi there, @CKNail Thank you so much for your patience! I'm very sorry for the trouble that you are having with your iPhones and iPads not being able to update due to the connection. Have you tried switching the 5ghz band to the 2.4ghz, and giving that a try? And with the iPad, have you tried connecting your iPad with an ethernet line?-Richard

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Xfinity joined my 2.4 and 5 ghz networks into one. How do I disengage them?

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2 years ago

Add me to this list, with a few exceptions.  When this all started, I had the same modem I’ve had for a while.  I am connected to WiFi and can do all internet things, but constantly have the error message that I need to connect to WiFi.  We’ve had 2 new modems, 2 tech visits and still the issue persists

it also affects my firestick, when I turn it on it says newtork not available, but I just have to click off the WiFi and back on and it comes back.  

ghe error message I get on my iPads is attached.

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@painterfamThank you for reaching out to us here on our Community Forum and we appreciate the screenshots you provided. Have you tried disabling your xFi Advanced Security to see if your Apple devices are able to be detected by your in-home network? Here are the steps if you would like to give that a try:

Using the Xfinity app
1. Go to the Security tab.
2. Select Advanced Security.
3. Select Advanced Security under Settings.
4. You'll see a pop-up window. Select Turn Off.

 

It is also important to note that we do not normally recommend turning off your Advanced Security but given the issue you have described this is certainly worth a try to see if it resolves the issue you're having.

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@XfinityBenjaminM​ thanks for the suggestions.  First I cannot use the app to look at any settings because the app thinks I don’t have internet services on my account (that’s a whole separate issue). But I have also attached pictures showing everything connected to my wifi(from back when I still could access that info). Also, the issue with WiFi also affects my firestick which is not an Apple product.  All devices can access the internet, just not back up or update.  It’s beyond frustrating (also, I took my iPad to a neighbors WiFi and it updated fine)

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Thank you for your reply! Can you try logging out of your Xfinity app completely and then log back in? If you can remain connected to your in-home WiFi that would be great. We want to see if it works correctly now.

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I have done that (still same on the app). Also app related, I had a relative log in to my account from their wifi. And it’s still the same message. Despite paying for a bundle, at the moment xfinity thinks I don’t pay for internet.

as for connecting to WiFi, I’m always connected, but again Xfinity thinks I’m not. (Sending 5is on an iPad with only WiFi connectivity)

totally pulling my hair out over this

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Thank you for giving that a try, and we are sorry it's still not working properly. We'll need to bring you into a Direct Message conversation so that we can continue to look into this for you. Please make sure to send us your full name and address. Here are instructions on how to send us a DM in case you need them:

 

Click "Sign In" if necessary
 • Click the "Direct Message" icon (upper right corner of this page)
 • Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon
 • Type "Xfinity Support" in the to line and select "Xfinity Support" from the drop-down list
 • Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window
 • Press Enter to send your message

 

We look forward to hearing from you.

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8 Messages

2 years ago

I tried to turn off advanced security and it did nothing. I worked with senior advisors in Apple and my case was reviewed by Apple engineers. It is Xfinity issue. I have two iPads which stopped backing up to iCloud. I tried to restore old backup to one of them and is did not restore either. The message is the same: poor network connection. The backup works on other networks, ie library. I turned off advanced security at home and it did not help. One line help is useless, I spent hours with them, but they have no help. I am looking for another internet provider.

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4 Messages

2 years ago

Glad I found this thread.

Since switching from my own modem to the Xfinity modem last month, the following devices have issues:

1) Both of our iPhones no longer backup to iCloud - "the last backup cannot be completed because of poor network conditions". They backup fine when I go someplace else and use another wifi network.

2) Photos on my Mac no longer syncs with iCloud.  I spent a lot of time with Apple support and its not on their end.

3) Printer will no longer connect to our network.

4) Kindle will no longer connect to our network.

Just had the Xfinity tech come out this afternoon again and he saws there is nothing wrong with the network.  I have to disagree.  Three different devices no longer connect since switching to the new modem.

Spending a lot of money each month now for something that only partially works.

I would like to get this resolved, but if I can't, then I will be looking for another service provider as well.

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4 Messages

2 years ago

Update to my previous post:  Last night I connected my Mac to ethernet and Photos synced immediately.  Definitely a Xfinity wifi issue.

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6 Messages

2 years ago

Same issue with my iPad Pro and iPad2. Since end of June, neither device can perform an iCloud backup. Used to run these iCloud backups every week and now simply get failed attempts with the “…poor network conditions” error message.

Members on the Apple Community website believe there is some form of incompatibility with the iPads’ iOS and Xfinity modem IPv4 and IPv6! Either way, the problem did not exist until Xfinity “upgrades” at the end of June!

7 Messages

2 years ago

Has anyone got this resolved? I have the same issue with my iPad. Can’t backup.  Can’t download updates. 

8 Messages

2 years ago

No help from Xfinity. They replaced my Gateway and it changed nothing. Backup works on other networks. Xfinity has no adequate support or interest to solve this problem, no advanced support whatsoever.

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2 years ago

For WiFi radio incompatibility issues, a really simple fix?  Next time you're walking down the isle in a big box retail place or home improvement store, look for a dusty discontinued 802.11 N300 b/g/n access point.  Sometimes you can find one for $30 or less.  Maybe you got an old WiFi router on a shelf.  A lot of them have an access point mode.  2.4G signal (802.11 b) is not sporty.  Transfer rate is pretty slow, but it goes through walls, does distances well, and the connection is usually remarkably solid.  Old gear and old radio chipsets?  They just work better than cost reduced stuff.  Throw hardware at the problem.

If the problem is your internet connection itself is struggling due to signal issues, and you are dropping and rebonding channels frequently and hitting uncorrectable errors, and breaking that active state connection to the backup servers, that's a different issue.  To get the backup to work you need a solid stable connection, and it has to stay solid for a long time while it's going on.  If that is the issue, then you would start here:  https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/internet-troubleshooting-tips/602dae4ac5375f08cde52ea0 

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8 Messages

2 years ago

It is xfinity security problem. Network functions well with strong signal. Also I can login on any weak network and backup without any problems. I navigate without problems and the speed is 300-400 ghz. The xfinity does not recognize its own network when it comes to backup or restore. I guess I can just connect to Ethernet directly to bypass network, but it’s a pain. They just don’t give a damn.

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@user_a8bd5e​ It's more likely the active state connection is being disrupted.

Try something simple like running an ssh server on something on your local network.  Put an ssh client on your iPad.  See if you can maintain an active session for an hour or two without that dumping out on you.  If that works then try the same thing to a remote site at a friend or neighbors house. 

I'd look at the logs and signal table on your gateway regardless. 

7 Messages

2 years ago

So I found a great thread on Apple forums. The resolution that has worked for people is to downgrade the xfinity modem/router to the XB7.  (XB8 is their newest which most people have). Everyone in that thread with the iPad backup & IOS update problem said that after downgrading to the XB7 it fixed the problem.  They say there should not be any wifi performance difference with the XB7.  I ordered mine and the real person chat agent at xfinity is also giving me a full month credit on my internet so don’t be afraid to ask for that too.  It is likely that since June firmware updates to the XB8 were pushed over several weeks and broke connections to iCloud services. 

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@user_dd8d90​ 

Literally just finished retrograde from Xfinity Modem/Router XB8 to XB7 and it had no effect on my inability to perform iPad Pro or iPhone iCloud backups!

Update: Just received Ablewe USB3.0 Hub+RJ45 Ethernet port from Amazon. Connected the adapter to the Xfinity modem and my iPad Pro.  Shut OFF my iPad Pro Bluetooth and WiFi functions.

iPad Pro successfully performed an iCloud Backup (repeatedly)!!!  

Ordering Lightening/Ethernet adapter for my iPad2 as soon as I finish this update. Will let you know how it goes.

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4 Messages

2 years ago

I'm in the same boat with iPhones and iPads not updating or backing up.


Works over cellular, works on non-Xfinity networks, but not at home over Xfinity. Seriously considering canceling the service.

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2 years ago

Same here, iPad and iPhone can’t perform iCloud backup on Xfinity Wi-Fi. Brand new service. All other Wi-Fi networks can backup work fine, as does cell. Definitely an Xfinity modem issue. Finally backed up phone by turning off Wi-Fi and using cell data, but iPad can’t backup.

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