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Tuesday, May 28th, 2024 5:45 PM

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intermittent service dropouts

We've been experiencing almost daily service dropouts for the past 2-3 years but now they are becoming a serious issue because our son is a bank auditor who works from home and the service blips cause serious losses of work for him. For security reasons, PNC doesn't allow saving work to his remote computer. Before anyone starts asking inane questions or making obvious suggestions like "did I remove any cables", here's a list of what's been done so far:

1. Comcast crews already have trenched in a new Commscope semi-rigid distribution U/G service cable with a Polyethylene jacket and a flooding compound. I designed   traffic management systems for the State of Md for 30 years, and I specified a similar 6 or 12-pair jelly-filled cable back in the days when T1 service was king. We don't want to see those crews again. We already had the EXACT same cable which was installed in 2010, and they cut that one and then split when they realized what they had done. We were without phone (including our burglar/fire alarm), TV, and Internet for a week, and received only a $37 credit to our next month's bill.

2. We have all new connectors and unused port 75-ohm terminators, installed by a Comcast Tech.

3. Our system uses the Commscope 8-port Zero upstream and downstream loss amplifier. The cable enters the house to the amp and then the signals are distributed radially to all ports in the house from there. In other words, the Gateway, an Arris 1682G, is essentially in parallel with the TV's.

We had one unused port with a terminator on the amp so I just connected that one through shielded coax to one of my bench grade Spectrum Analyzers, an Advantest R3641 with a range of 9 kHz to 3 gHz. I've chosen a center frequency of 471 mHz, which is Comcast's downstream for Channel 1. I'm seeing excellent signal levels, and I have screen captures that I can't post here, unfortunately. But the range is -27 dBm to -33 dBm, well within the operating range for the 1682G modem/gateway. Each channel display is level and the channels are uniform.

I have a Applied Instruments MDU, but I'm looking to buy a Sadelco DisplayMax 5000 with options 1 through 5 so I can analyze my system for interference sources. But here's my question:

When the service drops out we lose ALL services, including the TV. Based on the radial system design, this suggests that the intermittent drops are coming from a Comcast piece of equipment, not something local in our home. The TV goes away completely so we have to rely on off-the-air stuff and our phones for Internet.

Does my suggestion that the intermittent is with Comcast sound logical? If the TV remained in service, I would suspect that noise in our upsteam was knocking the Gateway offline. But that shouldn't kill the TVs, correct?

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oldradioguy2 Thanks for reaching out with your connection concerns. We are happy to look into what would be causing the issue for you. From what you described, it sounds likely either signal is completely getting lost at random, or the device is failing from time to time. How long have you had the current device from us?

 

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The Arris 1682G? It's the original gateway/modem that was installed by the Comcast tech when we switched from Broadstripe about 15 years ago. I wish I could post some pix from my Advantest analyzer, but I'm probably overthinking this problem. It's an "engineer disease", LOL. For the first 3-4 years, your service was rock-solid.

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I should mention that while we did not lose service today, I noticed a higher noise level on my Advantest screen. For awhile it was 
"ping-ponging" over a 3-4 dBmv range. I have 75-ohm terminators on all unused ports. We're using your Commscope 8-port + 1 VOIP port which has good specs, but it's also 12-14 years old so I just bought an Antronix VR900B/AC which has equal specs, just in case the problem proves to be in the original amp.

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oldradioguy2 15 years is a long time to hold on to any technology. I think you are talking about an Arris TG1682G. That model would be rated to support our lower speed tiers. The max speed we recommend using with that model would be connected speeds 300mpbs or lower. If you are currently using a speed higher than that with the TG1682G you may be running into connection issues as the modem can not support the speed. Do you recall what speed you currently have? 

 

Also, just due to the age of the modem, you may want to swap it out free of charge for a new one. Any Xfinity store location would be happy to help with that exchange.  As for the Amp, we would need to have one of our techs take a look in person to determine if that is the issue. 

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Amanda:

It IS the Gateway. It happened 15 minutes ago at 1:30 AM. I ran to my Advantest analyzer and booted up, to see - a perfect signal!?? I was looking at your channel 1 (471 mHz). I ran to the TV and switched it to Xfinity TV service. We almost always stream. THAT'S why I thought we lost all services. Naturally our phone was down because it's VOIP. But the TV was still clear and strong. It HAS to be the gateway.

We're running at 866 mbps most all the time. That's almost certainly the cause. It also probably explains the signal jitter I saw on my SA earlier today.

I assume there's no programming needed so a tech won't stop by, right?

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@oldradioguy2 I want to be sure we can get everything figured out for you with your service. Please send me a Direct Message with your name and service address so that I can fully dive into this for you! I will leave you instructions on how to initiate the message with us! I look forward to working with you soon!


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Topic moved here to this help section for assistance. 

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I installed the alarm system, a Napco Gemini. I just mentioned the alarm system because whenever we have these dropouts, and they last for more than just a few minutes, the panel polls the comm to make sure it still works and if the cable is out, a comm error is generated and I have to reset it through the central monitoring station. 

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