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Tuesday, June 25th, 2024 1:21 AM

High Ping Times

I am experiencing high ping times, mostly at evenings, while using the internet, and I am unable to find a solution.

I play a couple browser games, and I constantly experience problems with ping going from 20 to 400+ ms. Even Gmail gets slow during this time. Events usually occur every 10-15 seconds and the issue can last for hours. It happens very consistently to the point I was driven here since there's no way to create a support ticket it seems.

Been in IT since 89, so I have a clue. I tried restarting the modem and router. Checked logs. Even replace a length of RG6 that was suspect. Nothing helped or resolves except time. I assume evenings are peak hours and the node is being hammered. Is there some way to create a ticket (by design I'm sure) and I'm just an idiot and overlooking it? Please let me know if you need me to post pics of logs.

I will post pic of example ping issue in next message since it doesn't seem to let me do it here (by design I'm sure).

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4 months ago

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4 months ago

First. Is this with a WiFi connection ? If so, as a test, does a computer / device that is hardwired directly to the router / gateway device with an ethernet cable have the same problem ?


With this test, we are trying to isolate this down to being either a WiFi-only problem or a problem with the general connection to the Comcast system which would of course affect both. It's a good first step in troubleshooting before proceeding any further. 

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>Is this with a WiFi connection ?

It's a hardwired Ethernet connection. All cables are at least CAT5e. Cable to my desktop is 6' long.

>If so, as a test, does a computer / device that is hardwired directly to the router / gateway device with an ethernet cable have the same problem ?

Yes. During evenings, my 4PM - 11PM PST range, the ping rates are bad like as pic. I just did some tests and all pings are a more normal range and a 5 min test of the game shows no issues with lag.

Hope this helps.

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4 months ago

OK what do the modem's signal stats look like ? Try getting them here; http://192.168.100.1 or here http://10.0.0.1 

Please copy all of the text in its entirety of the *Downstream Power Levels*, the *SNR's* (Signal to Noise Ratios), and the *Upstream Power Level* numbers and paste them into your next post.


What is the exact make and model number of the modem / gateway device ?

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Arris SB6190 modem.

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Corrected Uncorrectables
1 Locked 256QAM 13 489.00 MHz 0.40 dBmV 40.37 dB 39 0
2 Locked 256QAM 1 417.00 MHz 1.10 dBmV 40.95 dB 82 0
3 Locked 256QAM 2 423.00 MHz 0.90 dBmV 40.37 dB 55 0
4 Locked 256QAM 3 429.00 MHz 1.00 dBmV 40.37 dB 43 0
5 Locked 256QAM 4 435.00 MHz 0.80 dBmV 40.95 dB 48 0
6 Locked 256QAM 5 441.00 MHz 0.60 dBmV 40.95 dB 34 0
7 Locked 256QAM 6 447.00 MHz 0.70 dBmV 40.37 dB 57 0
8 Locked 256QAM 7 453.00 MHz 0.60 dBmV 40.37 dB 66 0
9 Locked 256QAM 8 459.00 MHz 0.40 dBmV 40.95 dB 46 0
10 Locked 256QAM 9 465.00 MHz 0.60 dBmV 40.37 dB 50 0
11 Locked 256QAM 10 471.00 MHz 0.40 dBmV 40.37 dB 44 0
12 Locked 256QAM 11 477.00 MHz 0.70 dBmV 40.37 dB 51 0
13 Locked 256QAM 12 483.00 MHz 0.90 dBmV 40.37 dB 46 0
14 Locked 256QAM 14 495.00 MHz 0.50 dBmV 40.37 dB 30 0
15 Locked 256QAM 15 507.00 MHz 0.20 dBmV 40.37 dB 58 0
16 Locked 256QAM 16 513.00 MHz 0.10 dBmV 40.95 dB 41 0
17 Locked 256QAM 17 519.00 MHz -0.10 dBmV 40.37 dB 22 0
18 Locked 256QAM 18 525.00 MHz -0.20 dBmV 40.37 dB 44 0
19 Locked 256QAM 19 531.00 MHz -0.20 dBmV 40.95 dB 58 0
20 Locked 256QAM 20 543.00 MHz -0.70 dBmV 40.95 dB 32 0
21 Locked 256QAM 21 549.00 MHz -0.30 dBmV 40.95 dB 18 0
22 Locked 256QAM 22 555.00 MHz -0.10 dBmV 40.37 dB 43 0
23 Locked 256QAM 23 561.00 MHz -0.10 dBmV 40.37 dB 21 0
24 Locked 256QAM 24 567.00 MHz 0.00 dBmV 40.37 dB 34 0
25 Locked 256QAM 25 573.00 MHz -0.40 dBmV 39.90 dB 59 0
26 Locked 256QAM 26 579.00 MHz -0.50 dBmV 39.90 dB 17 0
27 Locked 256QAM 27 585.00 MHz -0.70 dBmV 39.90 dB 24 0
28 Locked 256QAM 28 591.00 MHz -1.00 dBmV 39.90 dB 29 0
29 Locked 256QAM 29 597.00 MHz -0.90 dBmV 39.90 dB 32 0
30 Locked 256QAM 30 603.00 MHz -0.80 dBmV 40.40 dB 18 0
31 Locked 256QAM 31 609.00 MHz -1.10 dBmV 39.90 dB 43 0
32 Locked 256QAM 32 615.00 MHz -0.70 dBmV 39.90 dB 31 0

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power
1 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 kSym/s 22.80 MHz 49.50 dBmV
2 Locked ATDMA 6 2560 kSym/s 40.40 MHz 49.50 dBmV
3 Locked ATDMA 5 5120 kSym/s 35.60 MHz 49.50 dBmV
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 kSym/s 29.20 MHz 49.50 dBmV
5 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 kSym/s 16.40 MHz 51.00 dBmV
6 Locked ATDMA 1 2560 kSym/s 10.40 MHz 51.00 dBmV

Last few errors from the log (MACs removed):

Sun Jun 23 19:59:56 2024 3 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sun Jun 23 20:00:16 2024 3 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sun Jun 23 22:12:43 2024 3 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Mon Jun 24 13:28:52 2024 3 Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Mon Jun 24 13:28:52 2024 3 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Mon Jun 24 13:28:53 2024 3 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

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Router is Linksys E2500. 4-5 PCs connected to the network and sharing resourced during the day and next to zero issues. I usually use a proxy when browsing and that does add a layer which I need to monitor and deal with sometimes, but the ping rate pic was from a direct connection to the modem and not relayed through a proxy. However I have tested both when the issue happens and it seems to be modem based, not proxy related.

When the ping issue happens there is only the one PC on the network and accessing the internet. The issue is pretty consistent with the times I listed, and never/rarely outside. And if it does happen outside the evening times, then it's very short lived, like 5 mins, which I expect of course. But consistently in the evening hours. Sometimes I will use a laptop around midnight to about 2AM to watch vids on youtube and it will sometimes buffer, which I believe may related to the ping issue, but I never spent the time to diagnose it.

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So... we're done here? Any way to create a support ticket with Comcast to address this?

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user_lqr28l We can take a closer look on our end, and see what the signal levels look like. There may be a bandwidth concern in your area, especially due to the specific time frame mentioned. Please send us a direct message, so we can gather additional information. 
 
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4 months ago

@user_lqr28l 

Apologies for losing track of your topic. 😞

OK, this may or may not be the root cause of the problem (YMMV) but it should be addressed regardless. 

The upstream power is too high and it may be intermittently fluctuating even higher to out-of-spec levels. That can cause random disconnects, spontaneous re-booting of the modem, speed, packet loss, latency problems, and the un-bonding of channels.

In an effort to try to obtain better connectivity / more wiggle room, check to see if there are any excess/unneeded coax cable splitters in the line leading to the modem that can be eliminated/re-configured. Any splitters that remain should be high quality and cable rated for 5-1002 MHz, bi-directional, and no gold colored garbage from Home Depot, Target, Wal-Mart, etc. Splitters should be swapped with known to be good / new ones to test.

Also check the coax cable for any damage such as cuts, nicks, abrasions, kinks, sharp bends, etc.

If there aren't any unneeded splitters that can be eliminated and if your coax wiring setup can't be reconfigured so that there is a single two-way splitter connected directly off of the drop from the street / pole with one port feeding the modem and the other port feeding the rest of the house/equipment with additional splits as needed and you've checked all the wiring and fittings for integrity and tightness and refresh them by taking them apart then check for and clean off any corrosion / oxidation on the center wire and put them back together again, then perhaps it's best to book a tech visit to investigate and correct.


Good luck with it !

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Ok, that's something I can work with. Thanks for the advice and direction!

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4 months ago

Quite welcome ! Please post back here with how it goes.

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Actually, one last question for clarification and so I know for sure what I should be comparing against and looking for.

>The upstream power is too high and it may be intermittently fluctuating even higher to out-of-spec levels.

I assume under the "Upstream Bonded Channels" list is where I am looking and the "Power" column? What is a more normal value that I should see in this column?

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Note: 

Ideal power for upstream is 38-48 dBmV.

Ideal power for downstream is -7 to +7 dBmV.

My run is about 175' or so. Tap might be a little low or my RG6 cable could be some cheap brand. Not sure without some ladder and ceiling time in my office. I'd likely just replace the whole run with RG11 and be done with it. I'm planning on moving in a few months so likely not going to happen. But thought I would update the thread in case someone else is dealing with this kind of issue and wanted to know specs and my current thoughts on a next step.

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