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Sunday, March 28th, 2021 12:56 PM

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Help! Can't figure out GB speed issue

Windows 10, LAN on MB (10/100/1000).  MoCA filter and splitter where cable enters house - one leg to video distribution box, second leg directly to my modem.  Had 200 MB plan and was getting around 180 MB.  Upgraded plan to 1200 MB and modem (Arris SB8200, DOCSIS 3.1), Cat 6 directly from desktop directly to modem port just to test - would "spike" speed to around 700 MB then immediately throttle down to 320 MB - 380 MB.  Reset and reprovisioned modem twice.  No change.  Had Comcast Tech out who checked speed at pole (1200 MB), speed at tap for house (1200 MB), speed at modem (1200 MB) with "excellent power levels" per Xfinity Tech.  Add SB8200 in the mix and speed drops to 320-380 MB.  Tech said "Speeds based on our equipment.  SB8200 might not hold full boot file. Try our Xfi modem."  Did that - same speeds.  Would spike to around 600 MB then drop back to 320-380 MB.  Hmmm, ok.  Try another gig speed modem.  Got a Netgear CM1200 yesterday.  Set up with Cat 6 direct from desktop to modem.  Testing wee hours of the AM and get a little better but not much - certainly not 1 GB. 

  Using speedtest.net app in W10 rather than browser test - Browser test is consistently 50-100 MB slower.  Modem reports:

Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 627000000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Security Enabled BPI+
IP Provisioning Mode Honor MDD honorMdd(4)
 
Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables
1 Locked QAM256 32 627000000 Hz 7.8 dBmV 41.2 dB 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 1 435000000 Hz 6.3 dBmV 40.6 dB 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 2 441000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 3 447000000 Hz 6.3 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 4 453000000 Hz 5.9 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 5 459000000 Hz 5.8 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 6 465000000 Hz 5.4 dBmV 40.4 dB 0 0
8 Locked QAM256 7 471000000 Hz 5.5 dBmV 40.4 dB 0 0
9 Locked QAM256 8 477000000 Hz 5.5 dBmV 40.4 dB 0 0
10 Locked QAM256 9 483000000 Hz 5.8 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
11 Locked QAM256 10 489000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
12 Locked QAM256 11 495000000 Hz 6.4 dBmV 40.4 dB 0 0
13 Locked QAM256 12 507000000 Hz 6.7 dBmV 40.5 dB 0 0
14 Locked QAM256 13 513000000 Hz 6.8 dBmV 40.6 dB 0 0
15 Locked QAM256 14 519000000 Hz 6.3 dBmV 40.6 dB 0 0
16 Locked QAM256 15 525000000 Hz 6.6 dBmV 40.8 dB 0 0
17 Locked QAM256 16 531000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 40.8 dB 0 0
18 Locked QAM256 18 543000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 40.7 dB 0 0
19 Locked QAM256 19 549000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 40.7 dB 0 0
20 Locked QAM256 20 555000000 Hz 6.7 dBmV 40.9 dB 0 0
21 Locked QAM256 21 561000000 Hz 7.1 dBmV 40.9 dB 0 0
22 Locked QAM256 22 567000000 Hz 7.4 dBmV 41.1 dB 0 0
23 Locked QAM256 23 573000000 Hz 7.4 dBmV 40.9 dB 0 0
24 Locked QAM256 24 579000000 Hz 7 dBmV 40.9 dB 0 0
25 Locked QAM256 25 585000000 Hz 6.8 dBmV 40.8 dB 0 0
26 Locked QAM256 26 591000000 Hz 6.5 dBmV 41 dB 0 0
27 Locked QAM256 27 597000000 Hz 6.1 dBmV 41.1 dB 0 0
28 Locked QAM256 28 603000000 Hz 6.9 dBmV 41.2 dB 0 0
29 Locked QAM256 29 609000000 Hz 5.8 dBmV 41 dB 0 0
30 Locked QAM256 30 615000000 Hz 7 dBmV 41 dB 0 0
31 Locked QAM256 31 621000000 Hz 6.7 dBmV 41 dB 0 0
32 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB 0 0
 
Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power
1 Locked ATDMA 1 5120 Ksym/sec 35600000 Hz 43.5 dBmV
2 Locked ATDMA 2 5120 Ksym/sec 29200000 Hz 44 dBmV
3 Locked ATDMA 3 5120 Ksym/sec 22800000 Hz 44 dBmV
4 Locked ATDMA 4 5120 Ksym/sec 16400000 Hz 44 dBmV
5 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
6 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
7 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
8 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
 
Downstream OFDM Channels
Channel Lock
Status
Modulation /
Profile ID
Channel
ID
Frequency Power SNR /
MER
Active Subcarrier
Number Range
Unerrored
Codewords
Correctable
Codewords
Uncorrectable
Codewords
1 Locked 0 ,1 ,2 ,3 33 678000000 Hz 7.7 dBmV 40.6 dB 1108 ~ 2987 107783651 105295721 0
2 Not Locked 0 0 0 Hz 0 dBmV 0.0 dB 0 ~ 4095 0 0 0
 
Upstream OFDMA Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation / Profile ID Channel ID Frequency Power
1 Not Locked 0 0 0 Hz 0 dBmV
2 Not Locked 0 0 0 Hz 0 dBmV
 
Extended Upstream Transmit Power
Enable Extended Upstream Transmit Power
 
Current System Time:Sun Mar 28 06:41:00 2021
System Up Time:13:47:03

I'm at a loss to explain why I'm not getting the plan's reported speed.  I think I've isolated just about everything on the system except changing out LAN card in desktop but I'm thinking that's not it since I was briefly seeing 700-800MB before it dropped back down to 320-380MB.  Coax cable from tap on line to modem - check (good - no interference, no power drop, per Xfinity Tech).  Cat 6 - check (good, tried two different ones).  Modem - Check (three different modems, three different manufacturers).  Power levels in spec - check (Xfinity Tech confirmed). 

I'm at a loss to figure this out.  Hopefully someone will have an idea.  

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here is what was deleted or just happens to have never posted. 

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4 years ago

@brintonh how are you checking the speeds? with a computer? The reason i ask is, i would check your network card drivers, or network card its self, i just got a so called plug and play adapter, 2.5 gig, so it played alright, but at speeds 1/3 of what i should have got, after some research i ended up on my new adapters webpage, so on that page it said flat out you would not get the advertised speeds if you used Microsoft drivers, so i installed the correct driver, this happened, i use a xb7, so maybe install the drivers from the network adapters webpage, just a thought

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@steagallcraig @jlavaseur For some reason neither of your comments are showing up.  I can see them in my emails but not on this forum. 

@brintonh "how are you checking the speeds? with a computer? The reason i ask is, i would check your network card drivers, or network card its self, i just got a so called plug and play adapter, 2.5 gig, so it played alright, but at speeds 1/3 of what i should have got, after some research i ended up on my new adapters webpage, so on that page it said flat out you would not get the advertised speeds if you used Microsoft drivers, so i installed the correct driver, this happened, i use a xb7, so maybe install the drivers from the network adapters webpage",

Response:  I have Realteck LAN built in to the Asrock motherboard.  Tried both the W10 driver but as part of my sniffing out all this problem, I installed the Realteck driver too.  Didn't make much of a difference. 

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4 years ago

@jlavaseur I check the speeds with the W10 speedtest.net app, not the browser-based speedtests.  I consistently get 100 Mbps faster with the app.  A bit messy but here's the app vs the Xfinity Site (Chrome Browser).

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4 years ago

Ok, just a thought here, ok so your getting the speed at the pole etc, multiple modems, so my rational leeds me to the network adapter, the fact you upgraded from a slower speed and didn't seem to have issues, personally i would try to uninstall that network adapter and reboot, i have had corrupted drivers that didn't function properly, but still worked,  just a thought

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Good thought.  Uninstall through "Device Manager"?

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And it'll come back when I reboot?

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Yes it will, yes thru device manager

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4 years ago

@jlavaseur Good idea.  Done.  Pulled in same Realteck driver.  No significant difference in speeds:

I did also try the W10 driver by rolling back but this is the most up-to-date driver installed now.  Rolled back made no difference.

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4 years ago

well here is the latest from my chat.....

From what I am seeing, the specs of your equipment on our website here: https://comca.st/3ukJD3P does only recommend the modem that you have now for speeds of up to 800 Mbps, with our new Gigabit speed being provisioned for up to 1.2 Gbps, the modem you have now can only deliver and be provisioned for up to 1 Gbps so what happens is a conflict of abilities of the modem and what we are trying to push through. We're trying to push through the right Gigabit bootfile, but that bootfile is for 1.2 Gbps which your equipment is not designed for. This is why once it is connected there is a mismatch happening and the speed is actually slowed down from its maximum ability. If you go to the website and review the devices that are recommended for the new faster Gigabit speed, you'll see there are only 5 that are listed as recommended and compatible with our infrastructure, unfortunately your current device is not listed with the new higher gigabit speed.

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@steagallcraig @jlavaseur Look at the list of approved gigabit speed modems.  Check out the comments if you enter Motorola 8611 in the search function for these forums.  No better than the issues we're having!

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@steagallcraig @jlavaseur Well, Step 1 complete.  Motorola MB8611 installed and provisioned.  Bottom two tests, one from last night and then again this AM, are with the Netgear CM1200.

The Netgear seems to be a little faster but not by much.  Seems when I do sequential testing (i.e., one test right after the other) it gets a little faster each time.  Still not getting close to 1 GB speed.

Step 2:  My new NIC card with 2.5G base should come tomorrow via Amazon; however, with it being Easter, might not happen so probably Monday.  The Arris SB8200 isn't back yet either.  So I'll leave the Motorola for now while awaiting the new NIC.

Step 3:  If the new NIC works better with the Motorola, I'll see if I get the same with the SB8200.  If so then the Netgear and Motorola are back to Amazon.  Here's the power levels with the Motorola:

 Downstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected
   1 Locked QAM256 32 627.0 6.9 40.9 0 0
   2 Locked QAM256 1 435.0 6.0 40.5 0 0
   3 Locked QAM256 2 441.0 5.8 40.2 0 0
   4 Locked QAM256 3 447.0 6.1 40.3 0 0
   5 Locked QAM256 4 453.0 5.9 40.3 0 0
   6 Locked QAM256 5 459.0 6.0 40.3 0 0
   7 Locked QAM256 6 465.0 5.9 40.4 0 0
   8 Locked QAM256 7 471.0 6.1 40.3 0 0
   9 Locked QAM256 8 477.0 6.1 40.3 0 0
   10 Locked QAM256 9 483.0 6.3 40.3 0 0
   11 Locked QAM256 10 489.0 6.6 40.4 0 0
   12 Locked QAM256 11 495.0 6.6 40.4 0 0
   13 Locked QAM256 12 507.0 6.7 40.4 0 0
   14 Locked QAM256 13 513.0 6.7 40.5 0 0
   15 Locked QAM256 14 519.0 6.6 40.7 0 0
   16 Locked QAM256 15 525.0 6.8 40.7 0 0
   17 Locked QAM256 16 531.0 6.4 40.8 0 0
   18 Locked QAM256 17 537.0 6.5 40.8 0 0
   19 Locked QAM256 18 543.0 6.2 40.7 0 0
   20 Locked QAM256 19 549.0 6.3 40.6 0 0
   21 Locked QAM256 20 555.0 6.6 40.8 0 0
   22 Locked QAM256 21 561.0 6.8 40.8 0 0
   23 Locked QAM256 22 567.0 7.2 41.0 0 0
   24 Locked QAM256 23 573.0 7.1 40.8 0 0
   25 Locked QAM256 24 579.0 7.1 40.8 0 0
   26 Locked QAM256 25 585.0 7.0 40.7 0 0
   27 Locked QAM256 26 591.0 6.8 40.9 0 0
   28 Locked QAM256 27 597.0 6.5 41.0 0 0
   29 Locked QAM256 28 603.0 7.0 41.2 0 0
   30 Locked QAM256 29 609.0 5.9 40.9 0 0
   31 Locked QAM256 31 621.0 5.9 40.9 0 0
   32 Locked OFDM PLC 33 678.0 7.7 40.6 3217427 0


   Upstream Bonded Channels  
  
   Channel Lock Status Channel Type Channel ID Symb. Rate (Ksym/sec) Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV)
   1 Locked SC-QAM 1 5120 35.6 43.8
   2 Locked SC-QAM 2 5120 29.2 44.0
   3 Locked SC-QAM 3 5120 22.8 44.3
   4 Locked SC-QAM 4 5120 16.4 44.3
   5 Locked SC-QAM 9 1280 39.6 43.8

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@ComcastJamesH @ComcastAlyssa You guys have any further comments on what I'm seeing with the various modems?  The post immediately above is with the new Motorola MB8611.  That's now 3 different modems on your approved list for my speed tier - Arris SB8200, Motorola MB8611 and Netgear CM1200 - and also tried your Xfinity Xfi Gateway as well.

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wow. that is a 1gb plan? I am not even going down the new modem path. I will just drop my plan down to 800. Its been a year and I haven't got close to 1gb speed. 

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