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Thursday, March 9th, 2023 5:21 AM

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Gateway Mess

Hello,

According to my Xfinity App, my home devices are connected to an Xfinity Gateway, but not to my own Xfinity Gateway.  The reason I know that is that since December I have used 0 gigabytes of my data.  Also when I go to the Xfinity App on my phone it shows that there is 49 devices connected to that particular Gateway, including my own devices, It is a mess and I have been having  this problem for a while and Xfinity themselves can't seem to be able to fix it.  The neighbor upstairs also has the same exact issue.  Also, I can pause and unpause everyone of those devices and so can he.  Also, I see Arrisgro devices connected to this unknown gateway.  What the heck is going on?  I am sure my neighbor and I are not the only ones, we are just the only ones that know.  Please someone help....  Thank you

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Apartment life.  That's a security problem if you have Xfinity equipment.

One thing you can try for less than 10 bucks?  An MoCA PoE filter (point of entry filter).  You should have one installed right on the line that feeds your apartment, but that's rarely installed.  I'd post an amazon link for one, but the bot will eat it.  They're easy enough to search for.  They sell them elsewhere too.  Screw it right to the back of your gateway inline.  It will block the higher frequency MoCA uses and isolate your unit.  If you use cable boxes that use coax, and not WiFi, it might have to go on the splitter that feeds your unit, but odds are, they will just connect to your neighbors apartment and still work if what you see going on is happening.

MoCA is Internet over coax.  It's a "feature" on Xfinity gateways.  The problem is you can't shut it off.  If there is an MoCA device, cable box, someone intentionally/deliberately ripping off internet in your building, a device on the coax line will turn the "feature" back on.

You're getting internet data for free!!  Zero data use!!  Hooray!!  (you may be an unintentional cable theft).  Cool thing?  If you are using cable boxes that use coax, and they still work after you screw a PoE filter to the back of your gateway?  You can rob other people's bandwidth, and run up their data use with Netflix and it won't cost you a dime!!

Hard to tell how apartments, townhouse developments are wired.  Xfinity may not be responsible for the wiring either.  A homeowners association or building management company may be responsible.  The downside is if you can see them (other devices), they can see YOUR gear.

Best practice?  Ditch the Xfinity gear.  Buy a 3rd party cheap cable modem.  Save yourself $14-$15/month.  Do your internet and WiFi with something else or a cheap WiFi Ethernet router.  Bonus if you put a firewall in after the modem, then connect the cheap Ethernet router to that.  Then you are back in control of ALL of your one's and zeros. 

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@flatlander3​   Thank you so much...   I don't have an xfinity box, because I don't have cable.  They wanted to give me a Flex Box but I did not wanted, considering that I have issues right now, and did not want to complicate things more than they are.  Should I still get the MoCA PoE?    Please let me know before I continue reading.  :)

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@user_0e11af​ Well, this is going to be your call, and it matters what you want.  If you are going to use their gear going forward, you do NEED an MoCA point of entry filter, and it can screw right to the back of your gateway for your config.  It's better if your hardware does not even have the 'feature', but they don't rent that.  All it is, is just a low pass filter that blocks the higher frequency range used by the MoCA protocol.  It won't change anything else.

Personally, I can't use their stuff for what I do.  Their gear fails my security audit, and also the security audits of places I have to work with.  This has to do with closed source software, and remote management of critical infrastructure via 3rd party, using the least secure device you own -- a phone app, and physical network isolation.

Based on your own experience, if there are 49 devices on your network, and you can see them in the first place, and even worse, control their network access right along with your neighbor, you've got a data breach.  I'd do something else.

Will an MoCA filter solve everything?  Dunno.  I don't use their gear, but that's one problem for sure.

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@flatlander3​ Hi again and thank you for your help with this.  Do you think if I bought my own wireless router this would get fixed?  

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@user_0e11af​ Well, the data use not showing up can be IPV6 related, so you may not be getting an IPV6 address, or getting one all the time.  I don't know if a router will change that problem in your market area or not.  That could be your end, or upstream from you, but if you want to break Xfinity's data counter, that's one way to do it.

Devices showing up on your network part?  If it doesn't have MoCA capability, you won't have stray devices showing up, and better security than you will from a flaky Xfinity rental gateway.  No public "hotspot", or hidden "security" WiFi network broadcasting from your gateway either.  No phone app to compromise depending on what you buy.

Does contracted BIOS guy scream "security" on any of these gateways?  Well no.  If you want that, you'll put in a firewall too and handle the security part yourself. It's more equipment.  That goes like this:

Internet <-> cheap cable modem <-> firewall <-> WiFi router <-> your gear.

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@user_0e11af Thank you for reaching out to our Xfinity Community Forums regarding your concerns over unfamiliar devices showing up in your Xfinity app. Reading over your conversation with our Problem Solvers and Experts in this thread, I see you mentioned working with our Xfinity specialists. What steps had they already taken with you to attempt to resolve the unfamiliar device's appearance on the network? Have you already had a technician out to have a look at the exterior wiring at the location? (checking things like MoCA filters such as mentioned earlier)

Additionally, have you attempted to remove the unfamiliar devices from the Xfinity app by following the steps here to see if they return or not?

I no longer work for Comcast.

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