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Constant Modem Timeouts Motorola MB8611

Hello,
I have my own modem but it continues to drop out every few minutes. I had a technician over today and they replaced a connector but I am still having this issue. I have included my error log (redacted) below. I have no idea what to do. I hear that it may be due to xfinity trying to put Fiber down in my area but I cannot continue to have this issue as it makes it impossible to do anything especially work from home. The modem is MB8611 btw. Any help would be appreciated.
Update, nothing works. I spoke to Motorola and they swear up and down its a Comcast issue. I agree. I have no choice but to rent a modem it looks like. I do not want to pay but nothing else works. I received a test x8 and that's working perfectly. Its inexcusable that this issue is on Comcast's end yet I have to pay for their mistake. 

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2 years ago

Can anyone help with this?

Update, nothing works. I spoke to Motorola and they swear up and down its a Comcast issue. I agree. I have no choice but to rent a modem it looks like. I do not want to pay but nothing else works. I received a test x8 and that's working perfectly. Its inexcusable that this issue is on Comcast's end yet I have to pay for their mistake. 

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2 years ago

Had a tech out today who replaced connectors and installed a power leveler to the modem. It only made the issue worse. Now it cuts out every 5 minutes. I had to manually undo everything that he did just to get it to calm down a little bit so that it cuts out every 15 minutes to an hour instead of immediately.

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2 years ago

Hi, @user_Es0824. Thank you for reaching out. I understand you keep seeing timeouts on your event logs that have been continuous for some time. I am certainly sorry to hear about the trouble, and I'll surely do everything I can to assist. I see we had a tech out already, but it seems to have gotten works. That is definitely not what we want to hear. 

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2 years ago

I have your answer. Replace your modem with something other than a Motorola.  Something about the MB8611 and whatever firmware Xfinity is pushing out causing connection issues. Mine got bricked by the final update they sent to it. FYI. Today's Motorola modems aren't made by Arris. That ended in 2015. Actually Motorola never made modems. They just license the name out. That's why they don't carry the Surfboard name anymore. 

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@petmitsu​ I hope that isn't the case and that my luck keeps going with having not lost connection in over a day. I don't want to take the loss in money when I have an xfinity approved modem in the motorola. 

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Ok. that's up to you. Just because it's on their approved list doesn't mean they can't have an issue with the firmware or update they send out to your modem causing loss of connection. In my case, the last one sent out bricked my modem. I was lucky enough to be within the return window and returned it. You can either wait it out for them to figure it out and who knows when or if they will, or just take a loss and buy another brand of modem and solve your problem. 

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I'd gone through and updated firmware on my router/mesh. For the modem I saw that that firmware gets pushed out by the ISP. When I log into the modem, does anyone know how to tell to tell what the firmware version is or when it's been updated? All I see that looks related is:


- Hardware Version V1.0

- Software Version 8611-21.3.7

- CM Certificate Prod_21.3_d31

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@petmitsu​ This and a couple other forum posts had me thinking this was the solution but I just activated a new modem (Arris S33) and I am getting the same issues. Modem just dropped connection. So to anyone hoping a new modem / manufacturer will solve this issue, I am sad to report that it didn't solve anything for me.

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2 years ago

Whelp, my internet just went out again after being up for 30 hours. Right after I cancelled my appointment via a call with the xfinity advanced support team that called me a few minutes ago. They are all very unhelpful and the english is terrible. Back to square one. 

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@user_Es0824​ 

Has the firmware load changed again ?

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@user_Es0824​ I agree that their English is terrible. I can hardly understand them with their thick accent. So how long are you going to tough it out and hope they figure out their firmware with this particular model modem?

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@EG​ Still 21.3.7 and just shut off again. That is twice within 30 minutes. 

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@petmitsu​ I will tough it out until they comp me enough to make this modem not be a total wash. I shouldn't have to pay for a brand new modem when Xfinity is at fault for this. It's not the modem. Its whatever update xfinity is tampering with and pushing through. 

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2 years ago

I just wrote a very long post explaining things i found out, but i screwed up, in a nutshell i went to att help forum, Version plus others, they all they all voice the same concerns pretty verbatim of the issues experienced here, if it is happening on other isps and no one has a solution, i doubt its the isp, i would look and have looked elsewhere.., 

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@Jlavaseur​ Wow, really? So all these different modems (arris and motorola) are having these issues on AT&T and Verizon as well? Would you mind sharing some links to what you read for myself and others to peruse?

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I haven't been able to find this issue on the other forums. Granted, It was a quick search and I may have been searching in the wrong location. 

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@user_Es0824​ in nutshell, try changing your router from automatic channel selection to manual channel, using a lower bandwidth for testing purpose, plus if your router supports it, try wpa3, in the device manager, your network card probably has a power management tab, uncheck it, less see the results, I have more

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i will give this a go soon and report back

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2 years ago

FWIW. If those other ISP's are DSL (copper) or fiber based (FiOS) then the issue can't have the same/common cause. Comcast is DOCSIS based. Apples-oranges.

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@EG​ the point is it has nothing to do with the isps, it’s a lot how the Microsoft operating system functions, the complaints are exactly the same down to the frequency and duration of the drop out or disconnect 

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The current network upgrades that are taking place, and the way that some modems are not handling them (likely due to firmware coding issues) is quite obvious to me.

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2 years ago

I'm having very similar issue with my Xfinity internet and have the Motorola MB8611. I've had this modem since October 2021 and it's worked fairly well. As Xfinity has been upgrading speeds in my area, I started noticing occasional modem 'hiccups' - it was maybe once a week last year? But in the last 2 weeks it's gotten terrible. I counted 11 drops in the last 24 hours. When I go back to work after the holiday break, this will make working from home impossible. I will say my speeds have become amazing in the last couple of weeks. I ran a speed test just now and got 971Mpbs download which is crazy fast. I was getting maybe 600 Mpbs a couple months ago. Nothing in my setup has changed, but I'd say my very fast internet is now useless for working from home.

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2 years ago

Well i have the mb8611, it worked flawlessly for months, i had some issues, same stuff, i booted in to Linux, completely vanished, Microsoft was completely out of the mix, so i went back to windows, changed some settings and it eradicated my problem...  a couple 10 second clicks fixed my issues, no one can find a solution....

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Perhaps the upgrade has not yet been done on your local system ? Everything is not *one size fits all / blanket fixes*.

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@EG​ that could very well be, but knowing the fact that win 10 etc, disconnects to do a scan for a better AP, its usually supposed be around 100 ms, but can last a lot longer...,. plus the fact that different isps have similar issues, i surmise that that a windows computer is involved...

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That may very well be but not everyone uses that O/S. I'm using that O/S and I never have a hiccup.

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2 years ago

I agree, i don't either, but to a certain extent it can be hardware related also, routers finding a better, quieter channel, may with a different SSid, shuffling devices to it, having to authenticate to the new SSid, but to just assume its a Comcast issue, we all see the progress that is being made..

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Read this very carefully with a open mind, these very issues are brought up on the other isps forums, play close attention to the times and duration cited in the article, then make up your own mind,…

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/wi-fi-ping-spikes-causes-and-fixes/ 

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2 years ago

We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. Happy New Year !

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Another interesting point I saw on the other forums, I thought was very good, so the tech said with advances in technology, you might serve yourself well to have the most recent drivers from the manufacturers website, Microsoft plug and play drivers do what there supposed to do, but I don’t see them advertised as ‘maximum performance or optimum performance’ probably for a reason, plus he said you should have the current build of your os, on the Microsoft website, you can refresh your os saving your data or a complete reinstall, free of course with a existing license, a while back before I read his comment, I installed win 11 on my 10 year old computer, I got the usual errors that my computer wasn’t capable with win 11, so I read the documentation on the website explaining how to bypass the warnings and install it anyways, so I did… 

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2 years ago

I made sure my mesh router was up to date with latest firmware and keep my PC and Smartphone OS up to date. Based on these forum posts, I really though t I was on to something unique to the MB8611 firmware, but I just ran out and bought an Arris S33 DOCSIS3.1 modem and activated it and within 30 minutes the modem dropped connection, so no apparent change to the symptom. I seem to be on a rough schedule of a drop occurring after about an hour, then the next drop will be after ~20 minutes, then an hour again, then 20 minutes... it's not exact but that is the theme for the last few days. I'll try removing the wireless router/mesh network from the equation and see how that goes...

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2 years ago

@DownLevel  Did you read the link I posted? It might explain a lot…

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@Jlavaseur​ I did. I found it a bit heavy on acronyms and technical i am not an IT, communication, or signals & systems person. My big take-away was that it's possible that even though the disconnects show up in the modem event log and not the router, that perhaps the wifi network, attached devices, wireless security options, etc might have something to do with it? So that's why I'm experimenting and removing the router and all things 802.11 from the equation. 

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So as I was changing connections over and waiting for modem to reboot, I took my dog outside and, since i was out there, I double-checked the exterior utility box and made sure things were dry and connections were tight. they were. One of the first things I had done was check connections were tight between the modem and the wall plate it my office (they were) but this made me wonder if i had any other connections?

So I checked in my basement and found a splitter there and one connection was loose! How it loosened in the ~6 years I've been here in a nice climate controlled room that I never go in and haven't touched things in I do not know, but I'm going on 5 hours now with no issues.

So I'd suggest anyone having similar issues triple check EVERY connection you can. Seems like it is a potential cause.

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@DownLevel​ So your Arris S33 is working without issues now?

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