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Sunday, June 16th, 2024 11:22 PM

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Arris S33: Unicast maintenance ranging no response t3 timeout

Hi,

I've been having intermittent network disconnections for a few years now.


I've mostly tolerated them, but I am at a point where I no longer can.

They tend to happen during the day mostly if that makes any difference to who may offer help.

I run a custom batch script that continuously pings www.google.com to let me know when the connectivity issues occur.

It is common for a ping request to fail once every 15 minutes and for two requests in a row to spike to 1500ms-3000ms (actually, these always occur in sets of two interestingly enough).

Those would be tolerable, but what isn't is what occurs next.

Something like this will occur in my batch script:

***BEGIN OUTPUT***

Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:27 Reply from 172.217.12.100: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=58
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:28 Reply from 172.217.12.100: bytes=32 time=285ms TTL=58
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:29 Request timed out.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:33 Request timed out.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:37 Request timed out.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:41 Request timed out.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:45 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:48 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:51 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:55 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:16:58 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:01 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:04 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:07 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:10 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:13 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:16 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:19 Reply from 73.15.87.150: Destination host unreachable.
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:22 Reply from 172.217.12.100: bytes=32 time=274ms TTL=58
Sun 06/16/2024 15:17:23 Reply from 172.217.12.100: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=58

***END OUTPUT***

So, you can see the outages last for about a minute before they end up magically resolving.

All clients connected to the network lose connectivity simultaneously (both wired and wireless).

What I've tried thus far:

  1) Replacing ethernet cables in places it makes sense.

  2) Connected cable mode to alternate/secondary cable outlet found in home (which is a separate line that I believe is on a splitter at the distribution box--of which is locked by Comcast, so I can't check the splitter [I have        a workorder out for that]).

  3) I actually purchased a new NETGEAR wifi-router yesterday hoping it was just an ASUS wifi-router issue (unfortunately, the same errors persist).

  4) Monitored the logs in both the cable modem and both wifi-routers (where no obvious temporal patterns were discerned--although, it may be possible that the error code I posted in the title of this question, which was        retrieved from the Arris S33 event log may be related).

I found another thread which may be related on this forum: https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/your-home-network/unicast-maintenance-ranging-no-response-t3-timeout/636d6711c4ab3642dbd8ed1a

Following the convention thereunto laid out, I will post the cable modem data with MAC addresses scrubbed:

***BEGIN OUTPUT***

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status Modulation Frequency Power SNR/MER Corrected Uncorrectables
20 Locked QAM256 531000000 Hz 0 dBmV 33 dB 3426841 11480933
1 Locked QAM256 417000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 1452435 419275
2 Locked QAM256 423000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 1925786 739101
3 Locked QAM256 429000000 Hz 0 dBmV 38 dB 2372377 1163935
4 Locked QAM256 435000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 2785902 1741018
5 Locked QAM256 441000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3112593 2394545
6 Locked QAM256 447000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3346315 3083834
7 Locked QAM256 453000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3514387 3773252
8 Locked QAM256 459000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3628660 4465336
9 Locked QAM256 465000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3748627 5179148
10 Locked QAM256 471000000 Hz 0 dBmV 38 dB 3846893 5909800
11 Locked QAM256 477000000 Hz -1 dBmV 31 dB 3936278 6644334
12 Locked QAM256 483000000 Hz -1 dBmV 43 dB 3972287 7382513
13 Locked QAM256 489000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3968114 8085921
14 Locked QAM256 495000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3906096 8810958
15 Locked QAM256 501000000 Hz 0 dBmV 31 dB 3820493 9444797
16 Locked QAM256 507000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3724308 9983134
17 Locked QAM256 513000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3618517 10449822
18 Locked QAM256 519000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3530117 10855420
19 Locked QAM256 525000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3467198 11184625
21 Locked QAM256 537000000 Hz 0 dBmV 37 dB 3413361 11720209
22 Locked QAM256 543000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3422065 11897463
23 Locked QAM256 549000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3428731 12012005
24 Locked QAM256 555000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3446725 12133078
25 Locked QAM256 561000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3462821 12247139
26 Locked QAM256 567000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3481954 12339526
27 Locked QAM256 573000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3501845 12447003
28 Locked QAM256 579000000 Hz 0 dBmV 39 dB 3519146 12557350
29 Locked QAM256 585000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3549798 12667612
30 Locked QAM256 591000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3575044 12776009
31 Locked QAM256 597000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3598296 12873582
32 Locked QAM256 603000000 Hz 0 dBmV 43 dB 3618751 12956191
193 Locked OFDM PLC 850000000 Hz -2 dBmV 41 dB 258381445 0


Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
17 Locked SC-QAM 16400000 Hz 6400000 35.0 dBmV
18 Locked SC-QAM 22800000 Hz 6400000 36.0 dBmV
19 Locked SC-QAM 29200000 Hz 6400000 36.5 dBmV
20 Locked SC-QAM 35600000 Hz 6400000 37.0 dBmV
21 Locked SC-QAM 40400000 Hz 3200000 38.0 dBmV
22 Locked SC-QAM 10400000 Hz 3200000 34.5 dBmV


Event Log:
16/6/2024
14:42:56
3 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=REDACTED;CMTS-MAC=REDACTED;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
16/6/2024
14:44:40
3 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=REDACTED;CMTS-MAC=REDACTED;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

***END OUTPUT***

NOTE: The above event log error (i.e. the title of this question also occurs in the event log when the network remains connected which is why I am not certain that it is related and could be just a coincidence)

Thanks for any and all help.

Best,

Philip

Expert

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1 year ago

The SNR values are too low / out of spec on downstream channels 11, 15, and 20. And they are a bit low / marginal on channels 3, 10, and 21. And there are a large number of uncorrected bit errors across the board. It appears that there is spurious noise ingress leaking into the line(s) somewhere. Here is some standard stuff that you can try and see if anything applies but I feel that you may need a tech out to investigate this one.

In an effort to try to obtain better connectivity / more wiggle room, check to see if there are any excess/unneeded coax cable splitters in the line leading to the modem that can be eliminated/re-configured. Any splitters that remain should be high quality and cable rated for 5-1002 MHz, bi-directional, and no gold colored garbage from Home Depot, Target, Wal-Mart, etc. Splitters should be swapped with known to be good / new ones to test.

Also check the coax cable for any damage such as cuts, nicks, abrasions, kinks, sharp bends, etc.

If there aren't any unneeded splitters that can be eliminated and if your coax wiring setup can't be reconfigured so that there is a single two-way splitter connected directly off of the drop from the street / pole with one port feeding the modem and the other port feeding the rest of the house/equipment with additional splits as needed and you've checked all the wiring and fittings for integrity and tightness and refresh them by taking them apart then check for and clean off any corrosion / oxidation on the center wire and put them back together again, then perhaps it's best to book a tech visit to investigate and correct.


Good luck with it !

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@EG​ Hey EG,

I'm not sure if you saw my new post on this thread, but I ran a new coaxial line straight from the demarcation point and the disconnects are still occurring.

One thing of note is that when the disconnection is occurring (i.e. that 45-60 second window, typically) I cannot log into the cable modem on my local network.

Do you think it might be the cable modem?

Thanks,

Philip

Official Employee

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1 year ago

Hi there, @mr_philip ! Thank you so much for reaching your Digital Care team. I appreciate your patience while you waited to connect with me. I'm very sorry for the trouble you are experiencing with your connectivity. Please be assured you reached the right person to assist you. Can you please DM me your first and last name, along with your full service address so that I can assist you further.-Richard

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111.3K Messages

1 year ago

@mr_philip 

Did you have a chance to see if any of those tips apply ? Please reply right here in your topic on these public help forums. Thank you.

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3 Messages

1 year ago

Hey Guys,

Thanks so much for the quick responses and the expert knowledge.

Since I initially posted I have determined that the issue still persists after completely replacing the coaxial cable, circumventing any prior coaxial lines and/or splitters.

The only thing I have yet to swap out is the cable modem itself.

Here are the downstream bonded channels since the replacement of the coaxial cable:

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status Modulation Frequency Power SNR/MER Corrected Uncorrectables
20 Locked QAM256 531000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 2670010 4637076
1 Locked QAM256 417000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 703632 1687829
2 Locked QAM256 423000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 734916 1810842
3 Locked QAM256 429000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 771988 1928350
4 Locked QAM256 435000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 806913 2043715
5 Locked QAM256 441000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 866183 2148989
6 Locked QAM256 447000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 931940 2255274
7 Locked QAM256 453000000 Hz 9 dBmV 42 dB 1001689 2352637
8 Locked QAM256 459000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1076401 2445865
9 Locked QAM256 465000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1164688 2546773
10 Locked QAM256 471000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1247250 2664677
11 Locked QAM256 477000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1348106 2784603
12 Locked QAM256 483000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 1448395 2923648
13 Locked QAM256 489000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1552348 3081360
14 Locked QAM256 495000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1679940 3259601
15 Locked QAM256 501000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1811422 3445754
16 Locked QAM256 507000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 1939881 3648950
17 Locked QAM256 513000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 2095873 3865975
18 Locked QAM256 519000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 2268025 4105898
19 Locked QAM256 525000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 2453406 4367681
21 Locked QAM256 537000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 2901280 4953575
22 Locked QAM256 543000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 3152810 5293462
23 Locked QAM256 549000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 3435333 5667997
24 Locked QAM256 555000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 3749446 6025944
25 Locked QAM256 561000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 3994171 6280298
26 Locked QAM256 567000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 4143237 6500271
27 Locked QAM256 573000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 4287865 6795534
28 Locked QAM256 579000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 4550283 7171164
29 Locked QAM256 585000000 Hz 9 dBmV 44 dB 4890595 7619327
30 Locked QAM256 591000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 5247351 8129182
31 Locked QAM256 597000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 5583887 8620047
32 Locked QAM256 603000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 5903102 9092040
193 Locked OFDM PLC 850000000 Hz 9 dBmV 43 dB 785684568 0

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel ID Lock Status US Channel Type Frequency Width Power
17 Locked SC-QAM 16400000 Hz 6400000 28.5 dBmV
18 Locked SC-QAM 22800000 Hz 6400000 29.5 dBmV
19 Locked SC-QAM 29200000 Hz 6400000 29.8 dBmV
20 Locked SC-QAM 35600000 Hz 6400000 30.3 dBmV
21 Locked SC-QAM 40400000 Hz 3200000 31.5 dBmV
22 Locked SC-QAM 10400000 Hz 3200000 28.0 dBmV

Here are the updated values for the downstream bonded channels and the upstream bonded channels, as you can see the SNR issues cleared up.

Unfortunately, it would seem that I am still having intermittent connection issues.

Is it worth replacing the cable modem and eliminating that as a possibility before approaching Comcast, or would it be appropriate to approach Comcast again now?

Thanks!

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