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10.61.x.y IP -- My Equipment or Xfinity's?
Hi there. Ever since Xfinity maintenance crews did some work to "enhance the network" near me (seemingly to update the infrastructure for the upcoming fiber optic era) September 26-28 (which ended with me getting a text that they could NOT complete the work at this time?), I have had intermittent connection issues. I noticed it because I stream as a part-time job, and this has put a huge damper on my job/income. Nothing had changed in my house, but because the issues were intermittent, I first tried a new laptop and a new modem and Ethernet connection. None of these things solved the issue. Xfinity now has had 2 techs come out: not sure what the first one did because I wasn't home, but the 2nd one was amazing, thorough, and explained what he was doing. He replaced the outside cables to the house and some other outdoor stuff. Unfortunately, the issue continues.
So, I like to problem-solve so I tried to be a tech guy before hounding Xfinity again: after all, it certainly could be something on my end even if I didn't change anything. I tried ping, pathping, traceroute, Ping Tracer (a program), WinMTR, and Wireshark (which I cannot wrap my head around). My question for y'all is: is a 10.61.x.y IP Address Hop always a private network thing like online implies? Or is there any chance it is Xfinity equipment? I ask because, if it is 100% for sure either the modem or router or something else in my house, then I want to try to figure it out on my own and not waste Xfinity's time anymore. However, if there is any chance a 10.61.x.y IP Address could be an Xfinity product, then I will have a technician come out again. As far as I know, I only have the Netgear Nighthawk modem and a TP Link router, no extra fancy network equipment (that I know of... we moved in 2 years ago). There are other red flags along the route to xfinity.com , but they are mostly that Akamai security hop which makes sense, so I figure the 10.61.x.y is most likely the culprit. I just wanna know if it's definitely something in my house or if there's a chance it could be the cable box/node/whatever (I don't know the terminology, but I've been learning while troubleshooting this! lol).
I see there is a pinned topic, and I will be exploring some of the tips (particularly connecting directly to the modem and going to the modem webpage.. somehow I didn't know that's a thing, only went to router webpage/log... when I tried plugging directly to my Nightgear Nighthawk modem, it didn't seem to work that way but the pinned post says to reset the modem... maybe that'll let me do some tests straight to the modem then).
Thanks for any info! And particularly info related to whether 10.61.x.y is definitely something on my end, or potentially something outside my home,
Jordan
Edit: After doing a little research, it seems others within the last 7-12 months, in different areas, have had issues with a mysterious 10.61.x.y hop after Xfinity did enhancements in their area. If any y'all regulars or employees have more info about this, so I know how to help the next technician/customer service rep the most, please let me know!
Jlavaseur
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2 years ago
I stumbled across this…
IPv4: 10.61.154.*is Private Use IP.
10.61.154.*is an intranet IP address, which is usually allocated to mobile phones, desktops, laptops, TVs, smart speakers and other devices. The intranet may also have another IP 10.61.154.1, which is usually used as an external gateway, this device is generally a WIFI wireless router or a switch with networking routing function.
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BruceW
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2 years ago
We know. As was posted earlier in this thread:
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Jlavaseur
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My point is, if it’s a phone or laptop etc, not his, something could be compromised routing his internet thru that device… just saying….
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BruceW
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Possible I suppose, although the device would need to be inserted in the coax line, and I imagine that Comcast would object to that and even they would be able to figure that out.
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EG
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FWIW. It's not a LAN device. It's WAN on Comcast's side. It appears that they are starting to NAT / proxy the WAN for some reason in some market areas.
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user_0ef58c
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Techs should be out within an hour or so. I'm running a test stream so I can hopefully replicate the problem while they're here. Fortunately, this time, cutouts are happening very frequently (let me guess, once they're here, it'll suddenly behave >.< fingers crossed we can replicate it and collaborate to figure this out). I have a test stream going; PingPlotter going to compare; my modem page ready to load (I keep missing the exact moment of latency spikes to see what the numbers look like in that moment, so hard to catch when intermittent!); and my OBS stream log updating real time since that usually shows the disconnects at same time as PingPlotter's latency spikes (interestingly, it's not so much associated with packet loss, tho there often is some of that the biggest indicator on PingPlotter is latency spikes particularly at the hop to the 10.61.x.x device). Prayers we can get this figured out and I can get back to building my streaming community
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user_0ef58c
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Update: no one came to the neighborhood on Monday. Turns out Zach, whom I really liked and felt will flow up, had a family emergency. Can't help those things.
At last, I heard from the maintenance supervisor himself today (Adam). We talked on the phone and I shared the September work connection, asked about the 10.61 hop (he said routing/networking would know, and that he's quite sure not cg-natting), and shared recent stream drops for them to compare. At least I have his number. I'm still doing the TMobile home network trial, and for any one else wondering, so far it's been stable. Speeds are much lower, of course, and I haven't tried streaming yet because Ive been trying to collaborate with Xfinity people now that I finally have maintenance working with me. So funny how they act like it's so common sense for me to communicate with them, share my stream drop times, etc--the exact thing I've been begging for for almost 2 months now. Anyway fingers crossed they identify the source of the snr, and if that doesn't solve it, figure out how the September work and/or private IP hop might relate to the problem.
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user_0ef58c
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Update: The work they did last Wednesday turned out to be that a neighbor had a melted cable splitter. They replaced that. It seems a bit more stable now but unfortunately still occasional stream drops.
I am still in contact with Adam, the local net tech supervisor/maintenance fella. He has one potential theory: his monitor data has sporadic gaps in it, some of which correspond to my recent stream drops. He contacted "the national team" who thinks it's just coincidence but will investigate. I also have had contact with Tashona at Corporate Escalations. But unfortunately I closed the ticket prematurely on Monday, since a melted cable splitter definitely seemed a valid solution, then had a stream drop that very same night argh!
I still have not been told what the 10.61.153.2 /.3 hop is. Maybe they can't tell me what it is, but I hope they are considering the fact it has 50+Ms latency while my first hop (to router) is <1ms and 3rd hop (to a 69.x.x.x address) is usually ~10ms. In case that's a piece of the puzzle.
Still no permanent solution here.
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