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Thursday, March 17th, 2022 12:52 AM

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550-"JunkMail rejected

Outgoing email is rejected to this domain, (Yes, I have tried other recipients at this domain) however I can send from gmail.  Error message is shown below.  It makes no sense to block OUTGOING messages as junk mail.  

How can I fix this?

Reporting-MTA: dns; resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net [xx.xxx.xxx.xx]
Received-From-MTA: dns; resomta-a1p-077252.sys.comcast.net [zz.zzz.zzz.zzz]
Arrival-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 04:13:47 +0000


Final-recipient: rfc822; [Edited: "Personal Information"]
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net

Last-attempt-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 04:13:58 +0000

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3 years ago

We finally were able to get to the right person at HostGator. They did say they put a fix in and from what I can see things started to reliably deliver today. Hopefully whatever they did will sustain.

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3 years ago

@suede831 Reading this article might help you understand what is going on.

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3 years ago

@Again​ Nope, that's no help. As @suede31 said, it's a Comcast server rejecting an outgoing Comcast email, not some 3rd-party server rejecting incoming email from Comcast.

I have the same problem, rejection by an outgoing Comcast server:

Final-recipient: rfc822; xxx@yyy.com

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077725.sys.comcast.net

where my Comcast email (for example, [Edited: "Personal Information"]) is the sender and [Edited: "Personal Information"] is another email address I have outside of Comcast.

 

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@user_47a8ca​ 

I have the same problem. So, what is Comcast going to do? The email is certainly not "junk." Sometimes, the same message gets through depending on the receipient's address.

Reporting-MTA: dns; resdmta-a1p-077741.sys.comcast.net [96.103.146.34]
Received-From-MTA: dns; resomta-a1p-077052.sys.comcast.net [96.103.145.234]
Arrival-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 00:46:59 +0000


Final-recipient: rfc822; [Edited: "Personal Information"]
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resdmta-a1p-077741.sys.comcast.net

Last-attempt-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 00:47:10 +0000

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@robert.n045​ 

I think I've solved the problem by turning off Comcast's spam filtering.

I had recently (around March 13 2022) turned on Comcast spam filtering in the Comcast web interface at https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0/INBOX.

My rejected outgoing emails were to HostGator email addresses. I got on the phone with both HostGator (who said  it was a Comcast problem) and Comcast (which suffers from recto-cranial inversion) and looked on this forum as per messages above.

But then I mysteriously got unsubscribed from a longtime email list I belonged to; the list administrator of that list said I had rejected an email from the list as spam, which automatically unsubscribed me.

So I turned off Comcast spam filtering, and re-subscribed to that email list, and that problem went way.

But then I also noticed that my bouncing by Comcast servers of outgoing emails to Hostgator emails has gone away.
     

Now of course, an outgoing email should in principle never be rejected by in incoming spam filter. But it's Comcast, Jake, Comcast.

To turn off Comcast's spam filtering, I went to the webmail at
https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&folder=default0/INBOX
thence to the gear wheel at top right,
thence to Email Settings,
thence to Mail/Advanced Settings,
thence to Spam Filtering/Override Security Filters - Allow spam and potentially harmful messages in your Inbox.

  • Now, am I 100% certain of my sequence of events? No.
  • Am I 100% certain the problem is gone? Give it time.
  • If you try disabling Comcast spam filtering, make sure you have other good spam filtering tools. I use Thunderbird on the desktop, with its adaptive junk filtering plus manually set filters.

Get back to this forum with your comments and experiences

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@user_47a8ca​ 
Update: I have a Comcast-email-using friend who is still getting the same type of junkmail rejection when emailing to the same HostGator email addresses I am successfully mailing to, even though their Comcast spam filtering is turned off. Aargh!

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@user_47a8ca​ 

Further update: Now I'm getting bounces again. So turning off the Comcast spam filter does not work.

The bounces occur both when I send from Thunderbird and when I send from the webmail interface.

I'm bummed.

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I am having the same problem.  Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob

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3 years ago

Good afternoon,

When you're receiving the bounce/reject message what is the from address of that email? I would also like to note that the spam filter option in email settings will only work on spam filtering inbound to your mailbox. It will not affect any outbound spam filtration if it was blocked on the Comcast side. Checking our logs for your outbound emails there are no blocked emails. Every email sent has been delivered to its recipient server. Its possible the recipient server is blocking the emails which is unfortuantely not uncommon since our mail servers are shared amongst all of our users where if the recipient received some spammy emails they may be incorrectly flagging ALL comcast.net emails from the server IP and blocking us instead of using a more tailored spam filtration system for the spammy content they are receiving.

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@XfinityCSAEmail​ 

You ask"When you're receiving the bounce/reject message what is the from address of that email?"
The from address is my Comcast address, of the form xxxxxxxxx@comcast.net

You say that "Every email sent has been delivered to its recipient server. Its possible the recipient server is blocking the emails . . ."

And yet the bounce messages I get or of the form

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077720.sys.comcast.net

There's nothing to indicate that the bounce came back from a receiving server, only from a Comcast server.

All of the bounces I getting are addressed to one Hostgator user's account, with multiple email addresses on that account.

I've talked on the phone to Hostgator support, and they say the problem is not at their end, that it must be a Comcast problem.

My question has not been answered yet, and there is no Accepted Answer.

Got any clues for me?

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3 years ago

@user_47a8ca  The message provided is what we receive from the recipient's mail servers and we pass the exact message back.  In the example you provide, the recipient server gave the reject code and included the mail server that was connecting to them. 

Smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077720.sys.comcast.net - This means we connected to them and they rejected it and provided why they rejected the message (they thought it was junk mail)  and what server they rejected (resqmta-a1p-077720 ).

If this happens again from either you or @suede831 can you send me the details that were redacted in the forums through a direct message?  It looks like HostGator uses a variety of email servers depending on the customer, including Google. So we will need more details to track it down.  Mainly just need the recipient's email address and a rough recent date/time. 

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@XfinityGabrielS​ Thank you for taking the time to reply. I have taken up the question with HostGator, and I hope that the solution is within sight. We use an adodyne address for members of the association board and redirect them through HostData to the correct person. When the board changes, we change the redirection addreess in HostGator and do not have to change the address books of the entire boafrd. Great idea, but it seems to be failing now.  It worked for several years but now it looks like HostGatoir has made some changes which are now in review.

Regards,

Bob [Edited: "Personal Information"]

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Please let us know what their resolution is for this concern. If they are unable to resolve we would love to help as well. 

I no longer work for Comcast.

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My customer is getting the following email failures when trying to email TO me.    I am a small business and have a small website that I run email through.

Not sure why your SPAM filters are blocking outgoing emails.

Is there someone I can contact to add my domain to a whitelist?

Reporting-MTA: dns; resqmta-a1p-077725.sys.comcast.net [96.103.146.34]
Received-From-MTA: dns; resomta-a1p-077058.sys.comcast.net [96.103.145.239]
Arrival-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 11:14:17 +0000


Final-recipient: rfc822; chris@trin********.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 Rejected due to high probability of spam

Last-attempt-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 11:14:23 +0000

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Same problem with someone writing to my client; intermitten however.

The hosting provider (Bluehost) states that Comcast is not blacklisted for their domain.

Reporting-MTA: dns; resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net [96.103.146.35]

Received-From-MTA: dns; resomta-a1p-077052.sys.comcast.net [96.103.145.234]

Arrival-Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 16:36:52 +0000

 

Final-recipient: rfc822; [Edited: "Personal Information"]

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net

Last-attempt-Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 16:37:03 +0000

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3 years ago

Same problem attempting to send from Comcast to Hostgator severs:

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077722.sys.comcast.net

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To follow up on this and please read my message from April 15th to provide starting context. 

As stated in my original post, this is a rejection from the receiving system, so we cannot implement an allow list the receiving system should.  We did look into a few of these and these hosting companies use small and aggressive third-party blocklists. Meaning, if they receive a small number of complaints (arguably valid or not) they will block our systems.  We have 10s of millions of email addresses so constantly asking to be removed from all these small lists is not sustainable. Spam is a big problem and these lists are a financial business, therefore there are lots out there.  The best avenue for these hosting companies is to put rules in to bypass these lists for the big senders. 

I suspect those behind the tickets for these hosting companies don't get the visibility into third-party lists they use which is why they say they aren't blocking us.  As we looked into the logs we do see specific rejects from them and the rejects references to these small lists. 

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@XfinityGabrielS​ 
So, what do you think might be the best solution to the problem? Should we move to a different hosting system which doesn't use third-party blocklists? Which hosting services, to your knowledge, use third party blocklists? Which do not? (I'm using Hostgator for my small-business emails at present, and I'm having the rejection-of-Comcast-emails problem. I contemplate a change to GoDaddy, which is now part of Microsoft.)
Or do you know a route to implement your suggestion of getting a hosting company (Hostgator in my case) to whitelist Comcast in general while blocking specific bad actors who use Comcast email?

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3 years ago

Raising spam score in Apache Spam Assassin from 5 to 8 in Cpanel on Hostgator's side appears to have resolved my issue where incoming Comcast emails were blocked as spam. Likely will see more spam though. Will use blacklists to mitigate.

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@user_8dd142​ Thanks! You led me to the right spot. My Spam Assassin level on HostGator was already set at 10, so I embiggened it to 12. And I whitelisted specific email addresses from Comcast.Net. I'll wait and see if an unacceptable level of spam creeps through the Spam Assassin filter, and if needed will knock the level back down. It appears that I can increment the level in hundredths of a point.

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Comcast is being blocked by Hostgator's servers again. The Apache Spam Assassin from 5 to 8 was not enough, although it worked yesterday. I'm trying 10. I've whitelisted the specific comcast email as well as *@comcast.net generally and the email was still blocked as "permanent error." Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077438.sys.comcast.net.

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I spoke with Hostgator tech support at length. They disabled the spam filter. Comcast emails were still being blocked. Here is Hostgator's conclusion:

Okay. Basically, Hostgator can only blocked your incoming email from Comcast if it's detecting a spam or phishing email. but since we already disabled the spam filter of your Hostgator. I can now send emails to the server but sometimes Comcast filter is still blocking your outgoing email from their server. I do suggest to contact Comcast if they other Spam filter on their server.

@XfinityGabrielS​ could you investigate?

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To add, the Hostgator rep stated that there was no other spam filter upstream.

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Thank you for reaching back out and providing an update. It would be my pleasure to assist you with looking further into the issue that you're having with your email. Could you please send our team a direct message with your full name and full address? Our team can most definitely take a further look at this issue. To send a "Peer to peer" ("Private") message:
Click "Sign In" if necessary
• Click the "Peer to peer chat" icon
• Click the "New message" (pencil and paper) icon
• Type "Xfinity Support" in the "To:" line and select "Xfinity Support" from the drop-down list which appears. The "Xfinity Support" graphic replaces the "To:" line
• Type your message in the text area near the bottom of the window
• Press Enter to send it

 

I no longer work for Comcast.

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3 years ago

This remains unresolved. Continue to get this error when sending from @comcast.net to Hostgator:

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077438.sys.comcast.net

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@user_8dd142​ 

You will need to reach out to Hostgator. We tried to contact them but were unable to make headway. 

Here is an updated log from today that you can provide to show their response when sent from Comcast to your "steel" domain. It says we are on a SpamCop list, but they provide a URL and that URL says we are not.  I suspect something is broken on their spam-fighting platform, especially since they think it is off and it's still rejecting. 

Permanent failure: 550-\"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077723.sys.comcast.net\r\n550-[96.103.146.57]:47182 is in an RBL on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked -\r\n550 see http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=96.103.146.57\"\r\n" banner="220-gator3225.hostgator.com ESMTP Exim 4.95 #2 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 08:11:00 -0500 \r\n220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, \r\n220 and/or bulk e-mail.\r\n"

And here is the response that is most likely from the one you posted:

Permanent failure: 550-\"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-a1p-077438.sys.comcast.net\r\n550-[96.103.146.52]:56858 is in an RBL on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked -\r\n550 see http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=96.103.146.52\"\r\n" banner="220-gator3225.hostgator.com ESMTP Exim 4.95 #2 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 08:11:00 -0500 \r\n220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, \r\n220 and/or bulk e-mail.\r\n" 

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3 years ago

I am also getting bouncebacks on sent email to AOL.COM.

The mail is outbound from 2 sender accounts.  My Domain server says the issue is the xFinity IP address is on a blacklist for rejection.

I use Thunderbird, I user 2 different outgoing server addresses.  I am told the xfinity WAN IP is on the blacklist or at least to the aol.com IP blacklist.

I am open to suggestions.

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Thanks for adding to the conversation, @user_fcd4ff. Do you have a copy of the error message that is coming through for the emails that you could share? 

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3 years ago

I think the problem is that there are enough bad actors using Comcast email to send spam that the spam blacklists sporadically get triggered. Thanks to XfinityGabrielS for pointing me toward the problem.

I conclude that Comcast is not doing enough (and perhaps/probably CAN'T do enough) to block bad actors, and so I have come to consider Comcast as unreliable for sending email.

When the problem occurs, I find that the outgoing Comcast server from which mail is rejected is on a blacklist at the moment, and the next day it may not be.

For example, on July 16 I sent from my Comcast email to a Hostgator address which I control, and on July 17 it bounced back with "Permanent error" in a message containing the line

Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-"JunkMail rejected - resqmta-h1p-028591.sys.comcast.net

So from a Windows command line window I did

ping resqmta-h1p-028591.sys.comcast.net

and I got

Pinging resqmta-h1p-028591.sys.comcast.net [96.102.200.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

This gave me the IP number for the outgoing mail server, 96.102.200.9

I then went to

https://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check

and found that the server was on two email blacklists, bl.spamcop.net and spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net

Checking at Spamcop,

https://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=96.102.200.9

I found that the server was indeed on the Spamcop blacklist on July 17.

"96.102.200.9 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2)"

However, on the next day, July 18, it was no longer on the blacklist. And today, it is not on the blacklist.

"96.102.200.9 not listed in bl.spamcop.net"

Going to the second blacklist, I was led to
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml

and checked on the server ip number 96.102.200.9
There was an entry in the SORBS list on 28 April 2022, so that is probably not was cause the problem pn uy 16-17.

Checking today at https://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check for 96.102.200.9, If find that it shows up on a blacklist
dnsbl.spfbl.net

Checking at that blacklist, if found that 96.102.200.9 is indeed blacklisted there as per below (which is where I stopped).

============

Check result of IP
96.102.200.9

Found an email server running at this address:

This IP was flagged to be a MTA not in compliance with RFC 5321.


For the delist key can be sent, select the e-mail address responsible for this IP:

    • <abuse@comcast.net> unsubscribed.
    • <postmaster@comcast.net> qualified.

Only the administrator of this email server can complete the delist process.

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