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Saturday, August 26th, 2023

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Rant about poor training

This is a rant about your staff lack of training.

I have basic internet service. I want to connect to Wifi with my Android when away from home. I have been reviewing the many YouTube videos about the security dangers of using public WiFi. I found this page,

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/xfinity-mobile-wifi-hotspots

It lists the different WiFi networks provided by Xfinity. The "xfinitywifi" I have been using is of the public insecure type in the YouTube videos.

I wanted to use the more secure "XFINITY" service. I found it in the Android WiFi listing. But if I choose it my device asks for "EAP Authentication," "CA certificate," etc. But I don't know what drop-down menu items to choose. I contacted your "Live Agent," and I soon realized that thing is a stupid chat-bot with artificial delays to simulate a person. It seems to take keywords of my text and return advice from a list of scripts. It has no ability to understand grammar or meaning.

Next I contacted a live person agent by telephone. Foreign accent. I explained that I have basic internet and I wanted to use my Android to connect to the secure "XFINITY" public version of WiFi. I just wanted instructions for the settings. So she emailed me the same URL above. I explained that was a description of what I wanted, not how to do it. Then she explained how to connect to public insecure WiFi. I kept telling  her I wanted the instructions for the secure XFINITY and I finally gave  up.

I drove 22 miles one way to the closest Xfinity store. I spoke to a young thin person. He asked me why I wanted to use the secure WiFi. I told him about lack of security of pubic WiFi and I wanted more security. He said it was impossible and tried to start arguing. I diverted back to the subject and he said it comes with Xfinity mobile service. I was confused because I am trying to connect to the internet with secure WiFi, not cellular data. He did not seem not certain about the need to buy phone service to access secure WiFi. Again he asked why I wasn't using phone service to access the internet. I told him I was in a situation I wanted more security. He said "Everybody can get your data. You have to be NSA or CIA to have that capability."

I said, "I'm not that paranoid," as I left for the exit.

I left and called the 800 number to talk to sales at Xfinity to verify that I had to buy mobile phone service to access the "XFINITY" secure Wifi. Another foreign accent on the line. She kept getting confused between WiFi and cellular data. I kept bringing it back to secure WiFi and asked if I need to buy phone service to access the secure WiFi. She then gave me instructions to access the insecure public WiFi. I reminded her again that I wanted the secure "XFINITY" WiFi. She said she would transfer me to technical support. I waited in silence for three minutes, and she came back and said she was transferring me. Again silence on the line and I hung up after two minutes. I think they knew I they were unsuccessful with me a few hours ago, and ghosted me.

I was still in Corvallis so I went back to the Xfinity store to use the public Xfinity WiFi. They took my name, but I said I would let them know if I wanted to talk to someone. The fellow came back and he seemed alright, not trying to make me feel bad for wanting more security. I had a URL for Xfinity secure profile but I kept getting 403 forbidden. So I offered it to him and watched him enter the URL and then I waited. I asked if he would go ahead with that. He said he did but "it didn't go through." His table remained on Google home page. I think he was afraid to try it in front of me.

I left and drove 22 miles back home. I am pretty angry at not getting any answers. I am angry at getting the stupid treatment by the store person I talked to. If he had more training he would have answered my question and not treated me like he could fool me like an idiot. Driving through my neighborhood I spotted a parked Xfinity truck. I stopped and talked to the driver. He verified that I had to have Xfinity phone service to access the secure WiFi. Also he told me that if I am traveling and see another provider such as COX I could log in with my Xfinity credentials. The guy in a truck was more informative in ONE minute than all your fake "Live Agent" chat-bots, phone customer service, and the in store agent.

The lack of training you provide your customer service employees make their job harder. Instead of having correct answers at hand they have to spew some [Edited: "Language"] to defend their false credentials as if they were an actual productive support person. This is how to drive burnout and turnover in employees.

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2 years ago

Hello, @user_54eebc. Reading your message, I can certainly understand why you would consider another provider after your recent experience with us. I hope that we can still keep your business, your loyalty means a lot to us. I have another solution for you than what was provided by the technician you met. The best way I've found from personal experience to connect to our secure hotspots is by using the Xfinity Hotspot app found here https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/download-xfinity-wifi-app-prioritize-home-network. Additional information can be found here https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/about-xfinity-wifi-internet, this includes some account requirements. 

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@XfinityEsteban​ I installed the mobile app. I connected to insecure xfinitywifi. According to item (9)
https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/download-xfinity-wifi-app-prioritize-home-network

"When you're in the vicinity of an XFINITY SSID and go to the WiFi Picker menu, you'll get a prompt to join the “XFINITY” network. Tap Join."

But I only see insecure xfinitywifi in the app to choose from. Is this because I have to have Xfinity mobile on my phone to access the “XFINITY” network?
The common security theme of using public WiFi is in this article
https://fractionalciso.com/why-you-should-not-be-using-xfinitywifi-hotspots/

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I had to uninstall mobile wifi app. Sign in -> opens page to find hotspot -> updating hotspots -> sign in page (signs in) -> opens webpage with ads

If I use my browser to access other webpages, it asks if I want to  access them though your app! That's a privacy issue with me. No thanks. Now only Xfinity pages load. The network shows disconnected. What a mess.

I uninstalled the mobile app. But now if I try to log into xfinitywifi like before I installed the app, it says "Sorry, a network issue has occurred."

So I guess that ended my attempts to using xfinitywifi permanently. What a mess.

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Just to be sure, are you seeing both Xfinity and XfinityWiFi in the area that you are currently in? This link will help determine with connections are secure https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/secure-vs-open-xfinity-wifi. 

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2 years ago

Thanks for installing the app, @user_54eebc. Did the app install the secure profile? The app will automatically connect to any secure hotspots while you are out of range of your home network. While all Xfinity Mobile customers have access to the hotspots, it isn't a requirement to connect to them. The requirements are based on your Xfinity residential internet speed tier. If you are only seeing the unsecured hotspots, it is possible there may not be any secured connections in the area. Both the secured hotspots and unsecured hotspots would still be visible on your device without the app.  

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@XfinityEsteban​ both secured "XFINITY" and unsecured "xfinitywifi" hotspots area visible in Settings -> Network. Both reasonably good strength. But in the mobile app, I click the properties of each hotspot and it always says "xfinitywifi" I checked about 12 of the closest. Also I didn't see any notification of a prompt to join the “XFINITY” network, as I mentioned above. I would like to test this but the app doesn't tell me the location of a secure wifi is, or I would travel to it and test this.

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I would like to set things back the way it was and be able to connect to "xfinitywifi" if I really want to. Since I uninstalled the app, but still get "Sorry, a network issue has occurred" I assume this is a problem at Xfinity.

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You may need to delete the app cache for the device you are using or try restarting the device. Please let me know how this goes. 

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That worked. BTW the "Sorry, a network issue has occurred" issue began after I reinstalled it.

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@user_54eebc Can you try to force close the app, and then reopen it?

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