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Best Wifi Modem/Gateway to use with X1?

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Best Wifi Modem/Gateway to use with X1?

I want to ditch my Comcast supplied wifi cable modem and purchase my own. I do alot of online gaming (wired). However I want an all in one unit. I want a Wifi Modem/Gateway. I do not want to buy a modem and a separate router, I also do not need Voice. I have Comcasts 200mbps speed. So far I have been looking at the Netgear Nighthawk AC1900. This unit seems to have some very good reviews. Is this the Wifi Modem to go with or what other options do I have?

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"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?

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@EG wrote:

"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?


It's called the AC1900 (C7000)

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B00ZUPOF7Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...

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There is a D3.1 gateway modem/router the Netgear C7800, if you want all in one, tad expensive though. You may be able to find more value by buying seperate units.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/cable-modems-routers/C7800.aspx

 

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@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?


It's called the AC1900 (C7000)

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B00ZUPOF7Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


If you are stuck on the C7000, it doesn't support phone service. You would need to use the C7100 "V";

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B01M1AOEDA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...

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@EG wrote:

@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?


It's called the AC1900 (C7000)

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B00ZUPOF7Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


If you are stuck on the C7000, it doesn't support phone service. You would need to use the C7100 "V";

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B01M1AOEDA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


I do not need phone service which is why I originally chose the C7000 over the C7100. I have the phone service plan, but no phones are hooked up nor do I ever plan on using it. 

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@Paraniod wrote:

There is a D3.1 gateway modem/router the Netgear C7800, if you want all in one, tad expensive though. You may be able to find more value by buying seperate units.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/cable-modems-routers/C7800.aspx

 


Wow, it is quite pricey. I do not mind spending the extra $$$ if its worth it. But how much of a benefit would I see over the C7000 that I mentioned? Its half the price of the C7800

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@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?


It's called the AC1900 (C7000)

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B00ZUPOF7Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


If you are stuck on the C7000, it doesn't support phone service. You would need to use the C7100 "V";

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B01M1AOEDA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


I do not need phone service which is why I originally chose the C7000 over the C7100. I have the phone service plan, but no phones are hooked up nor do I ever plan on using it. 


Oakey doakey.

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@EG wrote:

@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

@Juiced46 wrote:

@EG wrote:

"AC 1900" is not the model number. What is the exact model number of the Netgear device ?


It's called the AC1900 (C7000)

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B00ZUPOF7Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


If you are stuck on the C7000, it doesn't support phone service. You would need to use the C7100 "V";

 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Certified-Xfinity-Spectrum/dp/B01M1AOEDA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8...


I do not need phone service which is why I originally chose the C7000 over the C7100. I have the phone service plan, but no phones are hooked up nor do I ever plan on using it. 


Oakey doakey.


Since I do not need phone is the C7000 the best choice or are there any other options that I am missing aside from the $400 7800 which I am not quite sure will benefit me at this moment.

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Here's my standard spiel about the pitfalls of combo gateway devices;

 

Just look around the forums and you'll see that there are boatloads of issues with them.

There is always an inherent disadvantage with these. Combo gateway devices are always a compromise in both quality and performance compared to separate units. Also, only the ISP can update the firmware so you are always a prisoner of that / them. And the firmware is typically crippled by the ISP's customizing of it and they typically eliminate valuable features.

One of the biggest issues with them is that it is far more difficult to diagnose connectivity issues when it comes to troubleshooting. You can't narrow things down by using the process of elimination by removing just the router from the path. And if either segment fails / malfunctions, you have a total failure. 

Get separate units and keep the control of your home network in your hands instead of theirs, you'll be much happier !

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@EG wrote:

Here's my standard spiel about the pitfalls of combo gateway devices;

 

Just look around the forums and you'll see that there are boatloads of issues with them.

There is always an inherent disadvantage with these. Combo gateway devices are always a compromise in both quality and performance compared to separate units. Also, only the ISP can update the firmware so you are always a prisoner of that / them. And the firmware is typically crippled by the ISP's customizing of it and they typically eliminate valuable features.

One of the biggest issues with them is that it is far more difficult to diagnose connectivity issues when it comes to troubleshooting. You can't narrow things down by using the process of elimination by removing just the router from the path. And if either segment fails / malfunctions, you have a total failure. 

Get separate units and keep the control of your home network in your hands instead of theirs, you'll be much happier !


Thanks for the response and it all makes sense. But if I purchase my own All in one unit, then wouldnt I have control over all Firmware updates etc? It would all be handled by me since I am not renting it from Comcast anymore correct?

 

It does make sense to use separate units. I just figured an all in one would be fine since there will be less components and less wiring. The other thing I did not mention now is I already run a 2nd router in Bridge mode in my basement theater room since my basement is like a blackhole to WiFi. There is nowhere in my house on the main level where I can mount the Wifi Gateway currently and get solid signal in my basment room which is the reason I run a 2nd router down there for strong wifi. With that being said. If I go with a separate Modem and Router, I will actually have a Modem and 2 Routers which adds a bit more work for me since I do alot of console gaming on multiple systems. So it shouldnt be a big deal but I would have to make that all work seamlessly as well. 

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@Juiced46 wrote:


Thanks for the response and it all makes sense. But if I purchase my own All in one unit, then wouldnt I have control over all Firmware updates etc? It would all be handled by me since I am not renting it from Comcast anymore correct?

 

That's incorrect. Comcast controls the firmware of all combo gateway devices, rented or retail.


 

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Thanks, I was not aware of that. 

 

With that being said. I will not do a combo unit. What separate Modem and router would you recommend? I do alot of online gaming and some 4K streaming with a 200mbps plan. 

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Re: Best Wifi Modem/Gateway to use with X1?

Do you have any recommendations on what I should use for a modem and router?


@EG wrote:

@Juiced46 wrote:


Thanks for the response and it all makes sense. But if I purchase my own All in one unit, then wouldnt I have control over all Firmware updates etc? It would all be handled by me since I am not renting it from Comcast anymore correct?

 

That's incorrect. Comcast controls the firmware of all combo gateway devices, rented or retail.


 


 

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Re: Best Wifi Modem/Gateway to use with X1?

Since your speed tier (200 Mbps) doesn't require a DOCSIS 3.1 modem, you can get away with getting an older DOCSIS 3.0 16/4 channel modem if you're concerned about cost. Recommend the Arris SB 6183 - the white version even has a $7 off coupon right now:

 

As far as routers, I have an ASUS RT-AC88U, and I like the ASUS series of routers, but I've had good experience wtih Netgear and Linksys too. The Nighthawk AC1900 is a good pick. 

 

 

 

 


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@Juiced46 wrote:

Do you have any recommendations on what I should use for a modem and router? 


Here is an excellent site for researching routers !;

 

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/view

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Re: Best Wifi Modem/Gateway to use with X1?

Firmware is ALWAYS controlled by your cable provider on the cable modem (whether that’s a stand alone device, like an Arris SB6183, or an integrated gateway). If you want to control firmware on your router, yes, you need a separate router and modem. I always had separate equipment for the reasons you’ve spelled out. But since upgrading to the Triple Play package (TV, Internet and Voice) I opted for the Netgear C7100V. I couldn’t be happier. I previously used a Netgear Nighthawk router and an Arris cable modem. When I added voice I refused to pay a $10/month rental fee for a router with less range and less signal strength. The C7100V gives me AC1900 strength and the very familiar Netrear GUI. And the best part is that I bought it at Best Buy. With their 2-year add-on warranty (~$26.00) I can return it at any time for a new device. So if there’s a new model, I just pay the price difference. I always return everything at 23 months and get a new one with a new 2 year warranty.
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