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Re: Fox Sports 2


@mrshvd3 wrote:

If Comcast doesn't want it, the customer wanting it doesn't matter. There have been statements made by Comcast executives that if customers want channels that Comcast doesn't carry, they are welcome to subscribe to other TV providers that do carry them. In other words, "if you don't like it, leave." Pretty much says it all, doesn't it?


No.

 

It doesn't work like that.


There may people who think Fox Sports 2 is never going to get added, system-wide, by Comcast. (It is available in some areas.) But, we can't factually know that.

 

Fox Sports 2, as many of us know, is a rebrand from Fuel. That programmer wasn't carried by seemingly every cable-television provider. Since its rebranding, in 2013, the content on Fox Sports 2 indicates that it would have a broader appeal, and a demand, to be carried by every cable-television provider.


We cannot factually know why, so far, Comcast is not carrying system-wide Fox Sports 2. But, we can speculate. Some think it's personal. Some think it's because Comcast actually does not to add it to its lineup. And some, like myself, think the reason has to do with contractual status.

 

I think Comcast will end up adding Fox Sports 2. I just don't know when because, and this is important, I don't know the status of whether a contractual renewal is coming up or, if the answer is no, whether there has been discussion behind the scenes regarding the possibility of adding the programmer to Comcast's lineup.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

Comcast owns NBC Universal and guess what, that includes NBCSN so there's your conflict with Fox Sports 2. Old news but more then likely it has a part in not universally programming FS2 nationwide.
Foxsports2, been waiting 2 yrs + now. Don't see it happening.
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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

My theory on the subject is that Comcast is banking on most of the posters on this thread dissapearing this weekend, when NBC takes over NASCAR.  Yes, there are those who watch other sports that are being given short shrift by showing the last half on FS2, but the majority seem to be NASCAR fans.  They will think that they have then weathered the storm, and will show everyone how they will not be diverting any programing onto a rarely received channel.  Not that this is true, but, sounds like how a corporation (since they are people too; thanks to SCOTUS) thinks.

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Agree, and MAVTV also!
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The CONCACAF Gold cup has started. Already missed one game yesterday that was on FS2, will miss two games today that are on FS2. In total 14 of the 26 games are only on FS2. That means I will miss over half of the games. Come-on Comcast, strike a deal and add FS2HD already.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)


@Denztoi wrote:
Comcast owns NBC Universal and guess what, that includes NBCSN so there's your conflict with Fox Sports 2. Old news but more then likely it has a part in not universally programming FS2 nationwide.
Foxsports2, been waiting 2 yrs + now. Don't see it happening.

And the NA$CAR saga continues -- unfortunately, NBCSN isn't carrying the truck racing. Truck qualifying tomorrow will be on the unattainable FS2.

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Need a channel

Can I get channel 185 fox sports 2 in my pkg
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If your in a area with FS2, then call Comcast sales to upgrade your package.  The agent can give you pricing information.

 

1-800-266-2278

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Can I get channel 185 fox sports 2 in my pkg

I am seeing Fox Sports 2 on channel 177 in your area of Connecticut as a part of our Get Started Plus package. 

 

Please give us a call at 1-800-COMCAST or via chat at the link below where we can verify your identity as the primary account holder and then change your level of service. Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

I heard fs2 is coming to Comcast. I hope so. I miss watching UFC
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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

I just got Comcast today and they said they don't carry FS2
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Re: 2015 Gold Cup TV schedule

What about UFC
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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)


@Gysgt2690149 wrote:
I just got Comcast today and they said they don't carry FS2

 

That's why this thread has over 1,200 posts on it.

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Re: 2015 Gold Cup TV schedule

So last night the Man U vs America game started on FS2 and then switched to FS1 when the Nascar event ended.  It is a RIDCULOUS and CONTINUALLY IRRITATING JOKE to get a program alert that says to check for the FS2 channel number in your area.  Comcast does not carrry FS2 in the Seattle market. Would have Direct TV except can't get line of site for the dish from my condo patio.  As far as the Gold Cup goes I purchased FoxSoccer2Go because it also has CONCACAF Champions League. Looking forward to the day when this stupidity ends.  How long do you think that will be?

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Re: FOX Sports 2 & MAVTV

I too would like to know what the hold up is. I subscribe to Comcast Highest package they offer and I am getting tired of waiting. Either bring us those channels or I too will leave and take my business elsewhere. Fios just got installed this year in my neighborhood and I will switch to them if this does not happen. I would have thought that with Xfinity sponsoring NASCAR now that we would at least have FS2!

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Re: 2015 Gold Cup TV schedule

If you're looking to watch the NA$CAR Truck Series dirt race at Eldora this coming Wednesday night.....well, you know how it works. The qualifiers are all on FS2; the last chance qualifier and main event are on FS1.

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@bbsoccer wrote:

So last night the Man U vs America game started on FS2 and then switched to FS1 when the Nascar event ended.  It is a RIDCULOUS and CONTINUALLY IRRITATING JOKE to get a program alert that says to check for the FS2 channel number in your area.  Comcast does not carrry FS2 in the Seattle market. Would have Direct TV except can't get line of site for the dish from my condo patio.  As far as the Gold Cup goes I purchased FoxSoccer2Go because it also has CONCACAF Champions League. Looking forward to the day when this stupidity ends.  How long do you think that will be?


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Probably about the time a very hot place gets an ice skating rink, if you catch my drift.

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Re: 2015 Gold Cup TV schedule

It will still be ongoing well into tha afterlife. 

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Here is what irritates me about this entire situation.  First, I am a business owner, I started my business almost 20 years ago from a blank sheet of paper and I now have many employees, etc., so I know what works in business.  

 

This situation of Xfinity/Comcast battling Fox is bad for every single entity involved.  It's bad long term business for Xfinity/Comcast, it's bad long term business for Fox and it's bad long term business for Nascar.  Trust me when I say this.....when you make it harder for your customers to consume your product, you ultimately create fewer customers.  That goes for all businesses involved in this battle.  

 

From a Nascar point of view, Brian France NEEDS to get his counterparts at Xfinity/Comcast and Fox in a room and not come out until a deal is struck to where viewers can have Fox Sports 2.  If not, there are no winners, everyone loses in this ongoing battle between Xfinity/Comcast and Fox.  It's bad business.  If that's true, then why is this continuing, you might ask?  Two reasons, greed and arrogance.  Neither Xfinity/Comcast nor Fox wants to give in due to greed and arrogance.  Each of them believes they will win in the end.  Meanwhile various sports fans don't watch, advertisers lose eyeballs on their products, everyone loses.

 

Brian France (CEO of Nascar) deserves considerable blame as well.  He simply saw the checks that each of these companies dangled in front of him and he took the checks.  It was very short sighted thinking, the same illness that afflicts many American businesses.  They look at the short term and don't build the business for the long term.  Brian should have had the foresight to see the damage this battle between Xfinity/Comcast and Fox was going to have on the shrinking Nascar fan base and NOT signed a deal that allowed his product to be shown on channels that the majority of America cannot watch.  

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you're very right - but as a seriously OLD guy (58 next tuesday) nascar fan 55 of those years, seriously poor (going to take in my comcast stuff after 35 years a loyal customer - they refuse to budge and give a poor guy elements so I can at least continue email, simple internet, basic home phone, basic channels - even threaten to bill me for early termination (after 35 years - so much for every call ending in thank you for being a rare 35 year loyal customer) anyway I remember BILL France - the original. He founded nascar, built the daytona and talladega tracks. (and bought up others of course - why not, they own track's, make the rules, set the schedule, and of course give themselves first dibs, and cherry on top, private family held since the beginning - only sport like it in the world (forget motorsports - any pro sports) where a family owns, runs, sets rules, gives themselves the best of the best, passes out fines, and hands it down to a grandson that never followed nascar in the first place and when he made the news it was  usually for TMZ type reasons instead of nascar reasons. This guy - Brian - well the shortsightedness is far deeper - att (uverse) no longer has fs2  and either dish or direct tv I forget which - also doesnt. Bill france Junior cut the deal then with tnn (the nashville network, a race on tbs, several on over the air tv, the remainder to espn  the original. Back then espn also had nhra, world of outlaws, sprint cars  and the copper classic, midgets, thursday night thunder, and carried tthe original nascar truck series - held in the off nascar season - every race at phoenix - and called winter heat - effectively a beta test for what now is camping world trucks (tomorrow night at eldora). Bill Junior was different than senior but he grew up following daddy and tho softer ran nascar - and all ancillary stuff - with the same iron hand. The networks didnt dictate nascar- nascar dictated the networks. All before cell phones, smart phones, the internet, and yet even with the inbred nature of the sport took it in the late 80's early 90's so far it reached the magic kingdom - equal to then for one brief season surpassing even nfl the nba or major league baseball. Problem is they didnt stay at it, then bill junior got sick quickly and died. brian inherited a sport like a golden spoon and his lack of knowledge showed early on. He obviously knows a lot more now, but his business savvy is why stands are empty and this battle goes on - his heart still isnt truly in nascar. he's rarely at a race, often will attend a lemans race in france when a major nascar race is on here, he jet sets overseas plenty. Wth his sister they basically run a sport with mike helton a former track manager the day to day guy. Fox came in, less and less races on free tv and espn who were aces in the 80s and 90s for all auto racing, soon auto racing got bumped so much it was a matter of time....2014 was the end for espn for anything nascar on any level. Speed got swallowed up by fox who already had the waltrips cornballing it up on sundays on fox. Along comes comcast who promised the sun moon and stars to nascar fans. SINCE the fox half season is over, so far nbc has not entirely failed - I am as cynical as it gets - their efforts have been worthy. BUt comcast owns nbc - so that part is easy. Back on the ranch camping world and still much other practices qualifying or other stuff and various other former speed car shows and now other sports - more and more dumped to fs2 that so few get anywhere. How fox justifies a dead network is baffling - ;lost of shows - zero neilson share - no one can get the channel. I wonder is all their advertising the seedy viagra and such type commercials - they cant possibly have major contracts for ads - no way to quantify an audience. Comcast  xfinity - the racers love them - they filled the race cars and garages and pits with technology - at least year one - 2015. The on air talent - on nbc sports - ie comcast employee's - say what is going to be acceptable to comcast - whether it is reality depends on perspective. So NO one has a fans back. I'm a fan council member. I have learned after years doing so, it is platitudes - nascar can say we give fans a voice. That they dont make any changes or act on any input - so what - long as they feel we are given a voice - job done. And so it goes - all parties are guilty. even fans - I will walk away soon as I buy a walmart tv antenna  - almost did last week - but the walmart electronics guy kept going to the backroom every time he spotted a potential customer (I made sure to talk to the manager at check out - and left without the antenna and coax I intended to buy. I will watch eldora, and indy this weekend, I will buy an antenna, I will talk to att about getting their landline service and net zero about cheap mobile hot spot Internet I can run my tower off of, and then go to the comcast office in schaumburg illinois early august and simply say heres your stuff - goodbye. Customers threaten to walk away - I have, now I have no choice. Someone said this will never end - that is almost guaranteed fact. No party has any interest in changing status quo. Nascar is oblivious to eroding market share and merchandise fall off. Comcast - well have you ever seen comcast LOWER your bill - obviously they dont care (with all respect to comcast teds). Fox - we know all the fox jokes - so  brian france will stay rich and clueless, comcast rich, fox rich and fans, nascar or otherwise, will more likely win the mega millions lotto before they get fox sports - in the standard line up or even an extra price add on. Three years and counting - it is more dead than my late father  who passed two decades ago, my wife two years ago or my murdered daughter last year or beloved cat two months ago. I will be on antenna tv and scraping by but having no regrets - as nascar isnt going back to network tv ever. This is everyones fault - nascar, fox, comcast,.the other carriers, att - and yes - us the fans - cuz we complain, btu we stay. thre ONLY way this changes is comcast profits falling off a cliff by fans cutting the cable - lots of talk, it is trendy but it rarely happens - except losers like me that have no financial choice anymore. No one is minding the ship - and despite providing a 26 page forum just to placate us with an illusion and an official comcast paid mod - you might as well write this in graffiti as it makes the same amount of difference. No one is going to change - this ever. I am so confident if I was morbid I'd have put on my headstone - see I told you fox sports 2 would never be added to any carrier.

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No FS2 No USMT game against Panama

i cant believe that comcast still doesn't have FS2. I'm going to miss a USMNT soccer match for the first time in ages. This sucks. Strongly considering Uverse.
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Fox 2 still not in CC lineup

Despite multiple complaints/requests, CC/Xfinity Chicago customers still aren't able to watch FOX2. Extremely irritating to NASCAR fans to see a scroll across the FOX1 screen to catch the rescheduled 6-21 Chicagoland Speedway Race sponsored by Xfinity on FOX2 when you don't carry it in Chicago area and other providers do. ComcastCares Twitter reply, "I do apologize that it's not available at this time. We currently do not have an ETA for your area-RL". NASCAR Twitter solution was to download FOXSportsGo.com & watch it online or mobile phone. Seems a CC subscription comes with "Do-It-Yourself" instructions. If Comcast/Xfinity is willing to sponsor an entire NASCAR race series paid from the profits of payments, it should care enough to provide a channel where customers are able to watch the races.  Thank you. 

PS. Called courteous CC customer service once and number given to complain to Fox directly was movie studio in California.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

I'm so sick of not having Fox Sports 2 in Seattle! I've been with Comcast for my whole life, but if we don't get it soon, I will have to switch to Direct TV
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This will be the first US game that I've haven't been able to watch. This is getting ridiculous. We need it in Philadelphia!
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You guys don't understand.  Fox is DOING ALL OF THIS ON PURPOSE!  Fox is INTENTIONALLLY putting these various sporting events on Fox Sports 2 in order to get fans to apply pressure on Xfinity/Comcast.  Fox is using the fans of soccer, tennis, NASCAR, etc.  Fox is using all of these fans like pawns on a chess board, we are all being manipulated by Fox in order to get what Fox wants, for Xfinity/Comcast to pick up Fox Sports 2.   We are literally being used by Fox to do their battling for them.  Xfinity/Comcast is no angel in all of this, like I said in an earlier post EVERYONE loses in this ongoing battle between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast.

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Re: No FS2 No USMT game against Panama


@Kenpo5662 wrote:
i cant believe that comcast still doesn't have FS2. I'm going to miss a USMNT soccer match for the first time in ages. This sucks. Strongly considering Uverse.

Exactly. Hard to believe that we've missed most of the Gold Cup, including the USMNT's match against Panama. Now, we're not going to have any access to the upcoming Bundesliga season. Missed out on a lot of the UEFA and CONCACAF Champions League and going to miss out on more this year. The Premier League Extra Time coverage is going to suck for the third year in a row (what's the point of a DVR if I can't FF through some of the matches that I am paying to watch?). Missing out on a lot of soccer. I would strongly consider Uverse but Comcast has worked with the local city council to basically have a monopoly on decent Internet speed here and, apparently, you can't buy stand-alone Internet. Fun stuff.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)


@DennisMPrice wrote:

You guys don't understand.  Fox is DOING ALL OF THIS ON PURPOSE!  Fox is INTENTIONALLLY putting these various sporting events on Fox Sports 2 in order to get fans to apply pressure on Xfinity/Comcast.  Fox is using the fans of soccer, tennis, NASCAR, etc.  Fox is using all of these fans like pawns on a chess board, we are all being manipulated by Fox in order to get what Fox wants, for Xfinity/Comcast to pick up Fox Sports 2.   We are literally being used by Fox to do their battling for them.  Xfinity/Comcast is no angel in all of this, like I said in an earlier post EVERYONE loses in this ongoing battle between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast.


We all absolutely DO understand -- and trust me, we're giving Fox Sports grief about this, too. They're a pair of neighborhood bullies having an ongoing weeing contest with the viewers held hostage. This is the way big business operates. But at least they can't say they don't know what our feelings are, can they?  ;-)

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

And today the Bundesliga schedule was release. A huge chunk of matches on FS2.

 

I have to admit i'm blown away that after 2 years of people begging for this channel, Comcast still hasn't added it.

 

This isn't some niche religious 1% of your customer base network. 

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god willing, later I will write my final post...with good news as I will (if nothing fails) have fox sports 2.

 

On comcast you ask - ya right. Of course not.

 

I said I was cutting the cable.

 

Bought a magic jack too, sitting above my puter; the install scheduled for the rest of the pacvkage early this afternoon.

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Yea, a bit disappointed on the Bundesliga schedule after waiting for 2 years, but at least they're carrying something on FS1.  I hope as the contract ages and interest here increases, the programming will be expanded accordingly on FS1 or Comcast starts offering FS2.  I think for Fox,  FS2 will have to carry more of the load as I don't see Fox pushing college football out of Saturday programming.  FS2 makes sense from that standpoint.  Plus, Fox wants to regain English Premier League coverage after NBCSN's 3 years are up.  If that happens, two awesome European leagues on the same network, basically playing at the same time, plus Champions League, Europa league and CONCACAF (lots of this will be sub licenses to ESPN).  Where will all the programming fit?  Online?  I hope not.

 

Any way, hope this all works out for us fans.

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We couldnt watch Bundesliga previously because Comcast dropped GolTV, and now that its moved to FOX Sports we'll miss the majority of the games still due to Comcast's blatant refusal to carry Fox Sports 2 and Fox Soccer Plus.

 

 If nothing changes soon I plan on switching providers, I dont have anywhere to mount a dish (apartment without a deck), but as soon Playstation Vue comes to the Boston Market, which has BeinHD, FS2 HD, and Fox Soccer Plus, I'll be gone.

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

 


@DennisMPrice wrote:

You guys don't understand.  Fox is DOING ALL OF THIS ON PURPOSE!  Fox is INTENTIONALLLY putting these various sporting events on Fox Sports 2 in order to get fans to apply pressure on Xfinity/Comcast.  Fox is using the fans of soccer, tennis, NASCAR, etc.  Fox is using all of these fans like pawns on a chess board, we are all being manipulated by Fox in order to get what Fox wants, for Xfinity/Comcast to pick up Fox Sports 2.   We are literally being used by Fox to do their battling for them.  Xfinity/Comcast is no angel in all of this, like I said in an earlier post EVERYONE loses in this ongoing battle between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast.


 

 

Let me get this straight Fox is putting various sporting events on Fox Sports 2 (you know a channel that is there to show sporting events) because they just want to pressure Comcast? Not because they have the rights to multiple live events and need to show them LIVE? Not because they have customers who are watching those events (you know the lucky ones who are subscribed to Fox Sports 1 & 2 thanks to other providers like Verizon, DirecTV, Dish, AT&T, among others)?

I guess they should not broadcast any on FS2 just to please us poor Comcast customers, right? What are Fox supposed to show exactly on Fox Sports 2? Soap operas? Reality tv shows? The Bill O'reilly Show?

 

Comcast record speaks for itself: 

last to add BeIN Sports

last to add UDN (Univision Deportes)

last to add FS2

still refuse to let their subscribers access BeinSportsConnect streaming service

I would not be surprised they were probably last to give their subscribers access to ESPN3 streaming service.

 

 

 

3 more months of this than it's bye bye!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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well att came and installed everything. Uverse works, wireless works, watching fox sports 2 - right now torc off road series. got to keep the comcast modem I paid rent for 35 years times 10 bucks a month - 4200 dollars for something they bought in volume wholesale likely for about 20 bucks. Got magic jack hooked up, ported my home number. Apparently it will take a few days for that part. Soon as comcast releases my home number and magic jack sends a confirmation email - the last piece - the modem, goes in the bag with the two cable boxes already bagged up. Soon as magic jack is live, I'll pull the wire out of the comcast modem, aand back into the magic jack connector, assure I have a dial tone, then go to my local comcast office and drop off the three units and to remotes. By the way nascar fans  - new to att's menu, but if I read right, so far, no nascar on fox sports 2 from now through into sunday monring, that said we know much often is moved to fs2. Good luck folks, I gpt 2 new uverse boxes - one is wireless so I can drag out or move any tv anywhere and have tv wirelessly. And they give the first wired box - free. And the bill is quite a bit less, and gained a ton more channels. PS you know how like fs1 is like for me 408 non hd - 237 hd, or msnbc 76 non hd and 174 hd - always have to remember two unrelated numbers - well on uverse - non hd is number x - hd - add literally 1000 - to any channel to get hd. so watching fs2 hd - it is 1651, non hd, 651. And voila, more order from chaos - fs1 - 1652. Make ya madder- the netword tv channels are on the same channels they would be on free tv - also just add 1000. Day one - too early to call - but just knowing I can watch fs2 anytime I want, saving some money, more channels, well I cleared one thing up - good thing I went with uverse 200 - att also owns direct tv - no fs2 on direct tv - but the rumor was wrong, get the 200 package on  uverse - fs2, and dish carries it. So guess it now is 50 percent of the providers in my area anyway are playing ball with fox sport and 50% are not, and I went from 35 years with one that didnt to now the same provider all my nehgbors switched to - ages ago.

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No, you have to understand the business economics that are at play.  Here is the situation.  Fox desperately wants to duplicate the ESPN business model, where you have 3, 4 or 5 channels of sports.  Trust me when I say that Fox wants to eventually have Fox Sports 3, Fox Sports 4, Fox Sports News etc., just like ESPN has ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN 3, ESPN News, etc.  ESPN has become an incredibly profitable business operation with NO obvious national competition and Fox is very well aware of that.  

 

In most cases the dish/cable providers have to pay the channel a per subscriber fee to include that channel in the dish/cable listing.  Each one of the ESPN channels gets a large dollar per subscriber fee that the dish/cable providers have to pay to ESPN to carry the various ESPN channels and Fox is very well aware of this fact.  BUT the only way to make that plan successful for Fox is to get VIEWERS for the Fox Sports 2 channel.  How do you get viewers for that channel?  You INTENTIONALLY place fairly high profile sporting events on Fox Sports 2.  That gets fans of these various sporting events to apply pressure on their cable providers to add the Fox Sports 2 channel to their cable channel listing.  Fox is banking on the pressure of fans from Nascar, soccer, tennis, etc. to get the dish/cable providers to pay the per subscriber asking price that Fox wants.  We all like sports, but trust me this is business.  As I have previously said, we are all being played like pawns on a chess board.  We are being used by Fox to do their battling for them with the dish/cable providers.  

 

I remember many years ago, there were some cable providers that were dropping VH-1 (for those young folks out there, that's a music/drama/documentary channel created in the 1980s).  VH-1 began streaming a notice at the bottom of their channel 24 hours a day, 7 days a week informing viewers that so and so cable provider was dropping VH-1.  VH-1 then gave the phone number to call so that viewers would request that the cable provider keep the channel.  In other words, VH-1 was USING the viewers to apply pressure on the cable provider to keep paying VH-1 to carry their channel.  

 

So what Fox is doing is nothing new, unfortunately.  We as the fans, are simply pawns or hostages in this ongoing battle between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast. 

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Re: Fox Sports 2 (formerly Fuel TV)

FS 2 costs all of 0.28 cents per subscriber - so any excuse that Comcast posts about not wanting to pass the costs on to the customers is a joke.  I can't imagine 0.28 cents being a big deal to any of the 11+ million subscribers that are stuck with this 'service', it's just another lame excuse used by a cable company.

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need that FS2 for my bundesliga

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I'm not going to be mean rubbing it in. Uverse definitely has some quirks. with a 10 thousand channel range on the remote, you need to lock in hundreds of favorites on the remote - thankfully you can (I think the comcast remote you can set one or is it two favorites). I know comcast the newer boxes have no clock. I made sure long as I had comcast - 35 years - I had clocks on my boxes. I know it sounds stupid - it makes me crazy uverse boxes dont have a clock. I will be buying more wall clocks for my home. I'm old, the windows clock doesnt cut it. But so far I have seen some nascar and yesterday an Arca race on fs2. will they keep their promise of all the perks promised for switching? Will it remain impressive, I hope so. Poor as I am, the uverse package (2 up from the bottom, 2 down from the top, right in the middle - the 200 package - it doesnt mean 200 channels. There's lots of blocvked channels for better pacvkages, ame as comcast, and I havent counted - I know just so far the ones I have as a favorites group - so far - is 229 channels. I think I get something like nearly 400 plus the same batch of music channnels like comcast. Best I can figure, their [acvkage I save about 1 third off my discounted comcast bill that had just a few chanels over the minimum digital they carry. The magic jack - still not activated. I will nod to comcast - my email is forwarded and works, my home phone still works. The cord is cut but isnt - the modem is in place until magic jack decides to turn the number on, or comcast shuts the old one off as they already released it. Guys do what you want. I am seeing there were some advantages to comcast but I couldnt afford it. Mostly I prefer uverse, it is too early, 3 days. after the teaser rate for 2 years, the regular rate will be near as much a smy comcast bill. I habve tv's in 3 rooms - only watch in two. BUT I dont have to add a box if I want to watch that third one (my living room - never in there) I just taske the wireless receiver from the bedroom. Unlike comcast you have to call in  to activate the box - with att you simply take your stuff room to room. No calls, just take it wherre you want, the deck, your garage, front yard, whatever. I have a junky old style tv in here - it barely got a picture with comcast. Darn if it isnt a LOT clearer with uverse - not sure why. Last, you can on each tv with uverse - pick  your hd - 480, 720, 1080...even a wide screen sttting I guess for old tv's - tried it  = it looks silly. Now dish is pushing huge discounts - no buyers remorse - but I know they are the other player that carries uverse.

 

I'll close with this - yes the grass IS greener. So far not a LOT of nascar that I'd have missed - then again prior 2 weeks arca was on fs1 - yesterday it was on fs2 - channel 1651 versus 1652. Channels are logical - all the sports stuff is in the 600 or 1600 (HD) so espn is right in there, nbccsn 1640.I spent three years posting here mad at comcast. before I leave for church - know what I dont see anymore - the every other commercial comcast ads. and no, not replaced with as many att ads. Have a great day all. (yes even comcast teds - he didnt remove too many of my posts - I appreciate that fact).

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I'm not sure about your 0.28 per subscriber fee amount.  The last I had read was that Fox was asking $1.36 per subscriber.  Yes, even a $1.36 per subscriber is not much, but that cost would have to be completely passed on to ALL cable customers, not just those who desperately want FS2.  If you just add FS2 to a buy up package, Xfinity/Comcast would have to recoup the cost of $1.36 per EVERY cable customer, but they would have to obtain the entire amount from just those people who purchased the buy up package.  So the cost to add FS2 to a buy up package would be much more than $1.36.  Personally, I think Fox is asking WAY TOO MUCH per subscriber for FS2.  If I was Fox, I would start it out very cheap, get people and cable companies hooked, THEN increase the price.  As a business owner, that is what I would do.  In the end this is a game between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast, with each of them trying to get the best financial deal for themselves.  We as the fans, are simply hostages caught in the middle, mere pawns on their chess board.

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Caution on DircTV in the Seattle area - No PAC-12 Network on DirecTV - If you want College Football from the Pac 12 - No Dice on Dierct TV

 

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Finally dropped Comcast this week. Have waited for FS2 long enough. Thought about going with Direct TV and looked at Comcast's local competitor here where I live to see what channels they offered.

 

As a soccer fan, the competitor offers both FS1 and FS2, Fox Soccer Plus, ESPN Deportes (along with all the ESPN regular channels), NBC Sports............though it does not have BEIN 1 Sports, signed up for Sling TV and their Deportes package and get Univison Deportes, UNIMAS, Bein 1 and Bein 2, ESPN Deportes, Azteca..............plus saving money compared to my Comcast bill.............perfect timing with the season starting this weekend.

 

Good luck guys. I know it sucks.

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@DennisMPrice wrote:

I'm not sure about your 0.28 per subscriber fee amount.  The last I had read was that Fox was asking $1.36 per subscriber.  Yes, even a $1.36 per subscriber is not much, but that cost would have to be completely passed on to ALL cable customers, not just those who desperately want FS2.  If you just add FS2 to a buy up package, Xfinity/Comcast would have to recoup the cost of $1.36 per EVERY cable customer, but they would have to obtain the entire amount from just those people who purchased the buy up package.  So the cost to add FS2 to a buy up package would be much more than $1.36.  Personally, I think Fox is asking WAY TOO MUCH per subscriber for FS2.  If I was Fox, I would start it out very cheap, get people and cable companies hooked, THEN increase the price.  As a business owner, that is what I would do.  In the end this is a game between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast, with each of them trying to get the best financial deal for themselves.  We as the fans, are simply hostages caught in the middle, mere pawns on their chess board.




You might want to change your reading sources if you read that Fox is asking $1.36 for FS2 when the fact of the matter is they don't even get that much for FS1. Additionally Fox has already conceded to the TV providers at launch time by agreeing to start charging the low price they were getting for the old channels Speed and Fuel. On top of that it was reported back then that Comcast (who had already dropped Fuel TV) did get a discount price from Fox for FS1 just so Fox can fulfill their goal of being in as many households as they had promised their advertisers. 

 

Please spare us the lesson in how TV providers and the channels companies they carry do their deals. We for the most part know that. For those who don't, they get reminded of it whenver their favorite channel is in a contract dispute with their cable providers.

 

The reality is FS2 is available in all the major TV providers but Comcast (the locations that have it is because Comcast bought the local providers there which already had contract with Fox for FS2). Surely if Fox can come to a deal with all these providers you can't throw the excuse that price gouging is the reason they can't with Comcast? 

 

You're right on one thing: We as customers are an afterthought in this but make no mistake about it Comcast has to shoulder most of the blame. They're the middle man between Fox and us. As such they do a bad job.

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I agree. Im a UFC fight fan and am going to miss 6 Preliminary fights tonight. Most PPV fights are $50 per 5 or 6 fights. So COMCAST YOU OWE ME.

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get it together comcast. ufc is big and i want to see all of the fights. put fs2 in the line up or im going to directv where ill have that and nfl sunday ticket! end of story. 

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@SePokoSa wrote:

@DennisMPrice wrote:

I'm not sure about your 0.28 per subscriber fee amount.  The last I had read was that Fox was asking $1.36 per subscriber.  Yes, even a $1.36 per subscriber is not much, but that cost would have to be completely passed on to ALL cable customers, not just those who desperately want FS2.  If you just add FS2 to a buy up package, Xfinity/Comcast would have to recoup the cost of $1.36 per EVERY cable customer, but they would have to obtain the entire amount from just those people who purchased the buy up package.  So the cost to add FS2 to a buy up package would be much more than $1.36.  Personally, I think Fox is asking WAY TOO MUCH per subscriber for FS2.  If I was Fox, I would start it out very cheap, get people and cable companies hooked, THEN increase the price.  As a business owner, that is what I would do.  In the end this is a game between Fox and Xfinity/Comcast, with each of them trying to get the best financial deal for themselves.  We as the fans, are simply hostages caught in the middle, mere pawns on their chess board.




You might want to change your reading sources if you read that Fox is asking $1.36 for FS2 when the fact of the matter is they don't even get that much for FS1. Additionally Fox has already conceded to the TV providers at launch time by agreeing to start charging the low price they were getting for the old channels Speed and Fuel. On top of that it was reported back then that Comcast (who had already dropped Fuel TV) did get a discount price from Fox for FS1 just so Fox can fulfill their goal of being in as many households as they had promised their advertisers. 

 

Please spare us the lesson in how TV providers and the channels companies they carry do their deals. We for the most part know that. For those who don't, they get reminded of it whenver their favorite channel is in a contract dispute with their cable providers.

 

The reality is FS2 is available in all the major TV providers but Comcast (the locations that have it is because Comcast bought the local providers there which already had contract with Fox for FS2). Surely if Fox can come to a deal with all these providers you can't throw the excuse that price gouging is the reason they can't with Comcast? 

 

You're right on one thing: We as customers are an afterthought in this but make no mistake about it Comcast has to shoulder most of the blame. They're the middle man between Fox and us. As such they do a bad job.


Clearly you did not read my post, before you reply at least read and understand a post.  I said "Fox was ASKING $1.36" per subscriber, I didn't say that is what they are getting.  At this point, none of us, including you, knows for a FACT exactly what Fox is getting for FS1 or FS2 from each of the cable and/or dish providers.  My best guess is that it's different for each cable or dish company.  I read the same info you referred to in your first paragraph but the asking price originally wanted by Fox for the then new FS1 was the same as it was for ESPN, around $5 per subscriber.  But the cable companies/dish companies balked and Fox relented.

 

It's incredibly arrogant of you to say that "Please spare us the lesson in how TV providers and the channels companies they carry do their deals. We for the most part know that.".  I didn't know you could read the minds of the hundreds or thousands of individuals that are posting on here and therefore you know exactly what they know and what they don't.  And to simply say that they get reminded of it when their favorite channel is involded implies that everyone knows how this business operates, again incredibley arrogant thinking on your part.

 

Sure FS2 is available to all of the major cable and/or dish companies....as long as that cable or dish company can come to a price agreement with Fox.  The reason some Comcast areas have FS2 is because Comcast may have bought previous providers that had existing contracts that included FS2 (as Fuel previously).  Those contracts had to be honored.  So yes, price gouging by Fox is still an issue for the rest of the Comcast coverage area, becasue in those areas there is no existing contract, so negotiations have to occur between Fox and Comcast.

 

There is plenty of blame to go around, but as I have said before this is a situation where Fox and Comcast are not coming to an agreement and we the fans are caught in the middle.  Whether you want to assign more blame to Fox or Comcast, the end result is the same, we the fans are simply pawns on their chess board.  As I have said before, everyone is losing in this situation.

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my only complaint about att - way too many channels (I am very surprised) and now with fs2 - it's like I switcched, now no nascar lately on fs2 LOL....oh well...at least it is a LOT cheaper and they are NICE on the phone

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Not only NASCAR. UFC and UEFA Champions league. We are missing out on a lot of programs. If you're going to give us FS1 as part of the sports package, why is FS2 not available? It makes my mind hurt and I'm sick of paying all this money to miss out on the programs that I love. Fix yo stuff Comcast.
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@jimrussell2000 wrote:

my only complaint about att - way too many channels (I am very surprised) and now with fs2 - it's like I switcched, now no nascar lately on fs2 LOL....oh well...at least it is a LOT cheaper and they are NICE on the phone


The only NA$CAR on Fox Sports for the rest of the year is the Truck Series. Everything else is on NBC and its sports affiliates.