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Fri, Nov 20, 2020 12:00 PM

Just received email "Some local programming will no longer be available"

Says in email I will be losing 2 channels, but does not tell me which ones. gives me a link to one of their sites that it says "For a full list of the channels and areas that will be affected by the change, and to learn how to find the local station available to you, 

Unfortunately, this page still does not tell me the channels, and it directs me to yet another link,

"The channels that are being removed vary by market. Over 35 channels will be removed from 31 different areas. For the full list of channels that are being removed, please see Xfinity.com/contractrenewals

going to this site shows upcoming contract renewals, with no mention of what channels are being removed.

can anyone shed any light on this?

thanks.

fyi-comcast is removing my links.

 

 

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BruceW

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@dapper921 wrote: ... Over 35 channels will be removed from 31 different areas. ...

That statement has since been revised and now says "Over 35 channels may be removed from 31 different areas".

 

Just a bit below that statement on https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/neighboring-local-tv-stations-no-longer-available you should see a table like this (follow the link for the current version):

 

Area/ Channel LineupDMAChannel Being RemovedAlternative Channel
Portales, NMAmarilloKOAT (ABC)KVII
Tallapoosa, GAAtlantaWVTM (NBC)WXIA
Twin City, GAAugustaWJCL (ABC) WJBF
Wilmont, NHBoston (Manchester)WPTZ (NBC)WBTS
Horse Cave, KYBowling GreenWLKY (CBS)WNKY
Claremont, NHBurlington-PlattsburghWCVB & WMUR (ABC)WVNY
Colleton County, SCCharleston, SCWJCL (ABC)WCIV
Chico/Oroville, CAChico-ReddingKCRA (NBC)KNVN
Newberry, SCColumbia, SCWYFF (NBC)WIS
Las Cruces, NMEl Paso (Las Cruces)KOAT (ABC)KVIA
Tell City, INEvansvilleWLKY (CBS)WEVV
Arcadia/Cape Haze, FLFt. Myers-NaplesWMOR (IND)Not Available
Glades County, FLFt. Myers-NaplesWPBF (ABC)WZVN
Alachua/Levy County, FLGainesvilleWESH (NBC)WNBW
Harrisburg, PA AreaHarrisburg-Lncsr-Leb-YorkWBAL (NBC)WGAL
Norwich/New London, CTHartford & New HavenWCVB (ABC)WTNH
Connersville, Richmond, Lynn-Winchester,INIndianapolisWLWT (NBC)WTHR
Bedford, INIndianapolisWLKY (CBS)WTTV
Crescent City/Palatka, FLJacksonvilleWESH (NBC)WTLV
Nahunta/Waynesville, GAJacksonvilleWJCL (ABC)Not Available
Johnstown-Altoona AreaJohnstown-AltoonaWTAE (ABC)WATM
 MaconWJCL (ABC)WGXA
Coatesville/Kennett Sq/Redding, PAPhiladelphiaWGAL (NBC)WCAU
Kent County, DEPhiladelphiaWBAL (NBC)WCAU
Berwick/Eliot, MEPortland-AuburnWCVB (ABC)WMTW
Berwick/Eliot, MEPortland-AuburnWMUR (ABC)WMTW
Bristol County, MAProvidence-New BedfordWCVB (ABC)WLNE
Wheeler County, GARoanoke-LynchburgWXII (NBC)WSLS
Salisbury, MD AreaSalisburyWBAL (NBC)WRDE
Contra Costa/Solano County, CASan Francisco-Oak-San JoseKCRA (NBC)KNTV
Santa Clara County, CASan Francisco-Oak-San JoseKSBW (NBC)KNTV
 Springfield-HolyokeWCVB (ABC)WGGB
Polk County-Citrus County, FLTampa-St. Pete (Sarasota)WESH (NBC)WFLA
Polk County, FLTampa-St. Pete (Sarasota)WKCF (CW)WTOG
Frederick, MD – Winchester, VAWashington, D.C. (Hagrstwn)WBAL (NBC)WRC
Todd Township, PA – Washington County, MDWashington, D.C. (Hagrstwn)WGAL (NBC)WRC
Wheeling-Steubenville AreaWheeling-SteubenvilleWTAE (ABC)WTRF
Pottsville/Hegins Township, PAWilkes Barre-ScrantonWGAL (NBC)WBRE
East Liverpool, OHYoungstownWTAE (ABC)WTRF

 

The statement "For the full list of channels that are being removed, please see Xfinity.com/contractrenewals" is incorrect. That page is not a list of removed channels, it's a list of channels and networks whose agreements with Comcast are expiring. When agreements expire, they are usually renegotiated and the channel or network continues to be carried.

 

tito752

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5 m ago

I got the same email.  WCVB will no longer be available to me.

ThatDonGuy

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@dapper921 wrote:

thanks. boy, they should really check their links before sending out a million emails.. however.

seems I'm losing wgal (lancaster). not really how this works, though, since wgal is an nbc

affiliate, and comcast owns nbc. so not really sure why it's going away.

anyhow, thanks for the info.

 


It is because all of the channels being removed are owned by the same company - Hearst Television - and, for whatever reason, they want more money to be available in areas where there is already a "primary" station with the same network (in which case, that station can, and almost always does, demand that the "outsider" station black out all network programming - presumably to make sure you watch the local station, and, more importantly, its local commercials).

dapper921

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thanks. boy, they should really check their links before sending out a million emails.. however.

seems I'm losing wgal (lancaster). not really how this works, though, since wgal is an nbc

affiliate, and comcast owns nbc. so not really sure why it's going away.

anyhow, thanks for the info.

 

dapper921

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@ThatDonGuy 

I agree, that makes sense. Except that in my case (assuming that comcast's 'redding,pa' is actually "reading, pa"), WGAL is 30miles away (being removed), and the one we're keeping is in Philadelphia, 60 miles away. It would be interesting to know what 'local' really means to comast.

ThatDonGuy

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@dapper921 wrote:

It would be interesting to know what 'local' really means to comast.


I don't think that is Comcast's decision. It may be the FCC's; it may be the networks'.

dcfox

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Yea agree. I was suprised Reading was lossing WGAL. But I guess FCC says it is more local to philly. I don't see alot of Reading news unless it is big on WGAL though. It may be in between land. I am in Lancaster Co so always assumed philly did more local coverage in Reading. And also never saw a Redding Pa in this area with a market as comcast listed hehe. 

ComcastTeds

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Reading, PA and all of Berks County are 100% part of the Philadelphia television market. WCAU Philadelphia is  the primary NBC affiliate for your area.

 

https://thevab.com/storage/app/media/Toolkit/DMA_Map_2019.pdf

 

WGAL Lancaster is the primary NBC affiliate associated with the Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York TV market.

 

WGAL is considered OOM (out of market) for Berks County. 

 

 The terms "DMA", "out of market", "significantly viewed" and "network non-duplication" all have extensive definitions and examples, some links below that will make for some good reading: :

 

DMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_market_area

 

Out of market and Significantly Viewed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significantly_viewed_out_of_market_TV_stations_in_the_United_States

 

 Network non-duplication http://law.justia.com/cfr/title47/47-4.0.1.1.4.6.3.1.html

 

You can certainly contact the FCC about any questions on the "significantly viewed" definition or contact Nielsen regarding the current DMA designation for your area.  

 

Try here: http://www.fcc.gov/contact-us

And here:  http://www.fcc.gov/guides/broadcast-information-specialists

 

If it is important for you to view WGAL, you may be able to receive the station over the air with an antenna depending on your location and surrounding terrain.

 

Or watch WGAL's local news for FREE anytime on the free NewsON app. 

 

NewsON app info https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newson-local-news-nationwide/id1049006131

 

The links I provided above should provide some additional detailed information. Thanks for your interest.

 

 

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