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Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Regular Contributor

Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Currently running all old rules which will not be supported anymore by the new rules. Hopefully can find some answers here.

1. Our family does not operate on a schedule, every day is different for us. So I had the following rule setup to change the thermostat settings. Saved us a ton of cash and worked brilliantly.
- Security system is placed in armed night, we would change the setting for the thermostat to our night settings 65 heat or 76 cool.
- Security system is placed in armed away, we would lower the temperature to 60 heat or 80 cool.
- Security system is disarmed, we would set the temperature to 70 heat or 74 cool.

2. I also use rules which takes pictures when motion sensors get tripped. This feature is unavailable in the new system.

3. And last turn on lights when a motion sensor is tripped. Also unavailable in the new system.

 

Any ideas / suggestions or is it time to look somewhere else for home automation?

 

 

Regular Contributor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

No reaction or comment?

 

 

Official Employee

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

The old rules will still be supported.  It is just that you will have to use the mobile app to manageme them.  Your existing rules will still continue to work and will be available for enabling / disabling / deleting from the mobile app.  The only thing you will lose is the ability to edit.  For edit, you will need to recreate via the mobile app. 

 

Thanks for the feedback about the usage of automatoin for thermostats given you do not use a schedule.  We can work on making sure we have this rule template available.  For your motion rules, these rules will be made available prior to management of rules on web going away.

Regular Contributor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Just found the camera rules for motion and sensors Smiley Happy That was fast !!

Next the thermostat rules? Smiley Happy 

 

Another idea for the thermostat rules is this one:

 

Right now each thermostat has 2 schedules, one for heat, one for cold. Each has its own times etc. Manually we have to switch the systems from heat to cold on the thermostats.

 

Wouldn't it make more sense to create one schedule for each thermostat with a minimum temperature and a max temperature? If the temperature goes below the minimum the heat should turn on, when it goes over the max, the a/c should turn on.

 

If the system is placed in a state of (arm stay, disarmed, night or away), there should be a option for a rule to follow the schedule or a specific range to be given to keep the house in (example, 62 as the low, 80 as the high).

 

What you think?

 

 

 

Valued Contributor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Unfortunately thermostats and HVAC systems won't support this.  The thermostats have to be told to be in either heat or cool mode which then tells your HVAC system which mode it should be in.  It isn't based on tempertatures.  At least not with home systems that most people have.

Regular Contributor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

I can switch them from heat to cool with the Xfinity control panel.

 

If you can do it from there, it is possible to program it right? Right or wrong?

Regular Visitor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Wait, there is a way to turn on a light when a motion detector goes on?  Is that hiding in the legacy web page for setting up rules? 

Regular Contributor

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

Yes, its on the website under lights. Choose the light to turn on/off, when motion is detected.

Official Employee

Re: Issues with the new rules, features missing.

The rule to turn on lights when motion sensor detects motion is now available on the mobile app.